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paulrun26  
#1 Posted : 11 May 2015 11:52:55(UTC)
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paulrun26

One of our operatives suffered a heart attack at work last week. Thankfully he is at home recovering well. We are a sub-contractor and our principal contractor, who is also investigating the incident has asked for several pieces of information, in particular, date of birth, hospital visited, hospital reference number and I'm not sure at present but NI number. I just wondered if anyone else has had any experience of this type of incident at work. I am carrying out my own investigation but not too sure if it is fair/to divulge this sort of information. Regards Paul
walker  
#2 Posted : 11 May 2015 12:00:42(UTC)
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walker

I'd query why "they" want to know. It can't be for RIDDOR as I doubt the Heart Attack was due to his work.
Sunstone  
#3 Posted : 11 May 2015 12:02:15(UTC)
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Scotty C

Hi Paul What is the purpose of your investigation? It is to find out if there were any work-related contributory factors and/or as a review of your existing emergency procedures/first aid arrangements and their effectiveness? Glad he's on the mend! Cheers S.
ashleywillson  
#4 Posted : 11 May 2015 12:14:43(UTC)
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ashleywillson

I would establish if this is RIDDOR first (I'm not sure if it was or it wasn't from what you have said - probably not but you never know!). If it is, just give them a copy of the RIDDOR report. If not, be careful what you divulge under data protection. If you are in doubt, get the workers permission to divulge that information. I can't see why they want to know his date of birth (maybe age...) and I think asking for his NI number is a step too far.... Could be wrong but that's my gut instinct on this one!
firesafety101  
#5 Posted : 11 May 2015 13:14:30(UTC)
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firesafety101

Some years ago when firefighting one of my firefighters suffered a heart attack at a fire. He went off to hospital and was off duty for a long time, eventually returning to duty but did retire on pension after a year or so. Angina was a problem. The HR at the time tried to get him an Injury pension which is better than a medical pension on the grounds that the heart is a muscle and a heart attack causes damage to the muscle, therefore an injury in duty and RIDDOR. I cannot remember the end result but I would agree that the PC is asking for DATA protected information and that should be refused.
Ali Sooltan  
#6 Posted : 11 May 2015 14:01:22(UTC)
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Ali Sooltan

In my experience the only person who can grant permission or refuse is the "patient". If they agree, then they should not be overruled. Quite often insurance people will require details "outside" the scope of the immediate accident, which concerns us Practitioners. Hence the information requested may appear, at first glance, not to be important to investigating accidents.
stevedm  
#7 Posted : 13 May 2015 06:58:21(UTC)
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stevedm

Paul.. Unfortunetly I have done this a few times across UK/Europe..confidentiality is the key here...your Client can have the results of the Investigation but not the PT Details especially at this early stage unless the PT signs consent. This would be the last Thing I would be asking to give at the Moment. You may conduct a site risk assessment (bit like stress RA) to apease them...if that helps. If you Need more PM me... Best wishes to your man... :) Steve
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