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dan_ellis  
#1 Posted : 27 May 2015 14:13:50(UTC)
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dan_ellis

On one of the Sites I currently visit as a HSEQ Advisor, they have reported that seagulls have nested and laid eggs last week... The project was stood down for a week and my site managers left the site, and during this time the invaders landed! Has anyone had any experience of dealing with this? From what I can gather (in a nut shell) there are different rules for different birds at different times etc!

Greatful for any comments/advice.

Cheers, Dan
DaveDowan  
#2 Posted : 27 May 2015 14:28:57(UTC)
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DaveDowan

firesafety101  
#3 Posted : 27 May 2015 15:49:08(UTC)
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firesafety101

In my experience Seagulls are very protective of their nests and young, they have very large beaks and fly at speed toward you. I had this at a site many years ago, being attacked by a seagull is not to be recommended.

jwk  
#4 Posted : 27 May 2015 17:16:27(UTC)
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jwk

Briefly; Herring gull nests can be removed if they are a public nuisance and all other reasonable methods of abating the nuisance have been tried. Other gull nests can't be disturbed, so when you say seagulls the first thing is to sort out which type of gull you have. Add to this that delaying work on a site isn't a public nuisance, so you may just have to put up with it. FS101 is quite right about the way that gulls can behave, so some training and zoning would be in order.

We have pigeons in one of our warehouses, which is used to store hygienic medical kit. Problem is we can't have guns of any sort in any of our workplaces (international law I'm afraid). We've tied trapping but the pigeons were too clever....

John
David H  
#5 Posted : 27 May 2015 20:05:07(UTC)
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David H

If you prick the egg before its hatched that is perfectly legal and stops it hatching - but how do you gain safe access without being attacked is the worry

David
jwk  
#6 Posted : 28 May 2015 10:02:19(UTC)
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jwk

Whoa David! That's an urban myth; it is in fact perfectly illegal to do so. The Wildlife and Countryside Act 1980 says:

Subject to the provisions of this Part, if any person intentionally— .

(a)kills, injures or takes any wild bird; .

[F1(aa)takes, damages or destroys the nest of a wild bird included in Schedule ZA1;] .

(b)takes, damages or destroys the nest of any wild bird while that nest is in use or being built; or .

(c)takes or destroys an egg of any wild bird, .

he shall be guilty of an offence.

Pricking a bird's egg, unless it's one of the few 'pest' species is illegal, as per the paragraph above. Even if it's a pest there are still quite a few provisos on what you can and cannot do to birds' nests. As I and others have stated, Herring Gull nests can be removed if they are a public nuisance, but not otherwise,

John
walker  
#7 Posted : 28 May 2015 14:31:40(UTC)
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walker

This is an annual problem for us and our clients as we work at shoreline high buildings. In effect hard hats have to be worn most of the breeding season due to bird attacks.

I was with a good friend who was attacked by a large herring gull, he needed stitches as a result.
He still reminds me(years later) that I was laughing too much to competently administer First Aid.
DAG2  
#8 Posted : 28 May 2015 21:32:56(UTC)
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DAG2

My company obtained a licence for the removal of a common gull's nest last year but was then told no more licenses unless we could demonstrate that we were employing active deterrent measures going forward (e.g. bringing in hawks, placing fake eggs etc...too expensive for our bean counters).

Now we have had four low level common gull nests on site already this year and I am warning our staff to be highly vigilant for any more being made on any pending shipment boxes (imagine a half million pound equipment order being held up by a gull with a good lawyer making a home on it!). We must utilise the small time window available to scare a bird away before the nest is finished and the eggs are placed.
Note that weekends are dangerous times- if no staff on site the gulls can quickly be settled in by a Monday morning!

The current nests we have just cordoned off and parked other equipment nearby etc to keep humans and gulls apart as much as possible.

All we can then do is circulate warnings to staff to be wary of birds, waving your arms is often enough to deter.

Watch out for Oystercatchers, they are nasty little busteds!
walker  
#9 Posted : 29 May 2015 08:05:07(UTC)
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walker

Oyster catchers are my favourite bird
Once I was lucky enough to have one nest just outside my office window.
But you are right, they are viciously protective.

I trust if a job does get held up then the bean counters will be held to account (pun intended).
Give me aggressive birds over unimaginative bean counters any day!
Psycho  
#10 Posted : 29 May 2015 16:48:21(UTC)
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Psycho

Always pays to put a little owl or even a long eared owl decoy on the top of your scaffolding keeps them away prior to nesting
boblewis  
#11 Posted : 31 May 2015 21:13:17(UTC)
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boblewis

Once the nest has started then you have lost the battle. You need to stop any nesting activity. Marsh Harriers are the main predator for gull chicks but the Corvids (crow family) are also very good. You can get some very good kites of large raptors and in some circumstances gas gun scarers can work.
IanDakin  
#12 Posted : 01 June 2015 07:30:40(UTC)
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IanDakin

Hi
Don't forget the COSHH implications from birds, droppings and nests. They are a know allergen.
http://www.hse.gov.uk/co...nisms/other-diseases.htm

Ian
walker  
#13 Posted : 01 June 2015 10:36:41(UTC)
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walker

Psycho wrote:
Always pays to put a little owl or even a long eared owl decoy on the top of your scaffolding keeps them away prior to nesting


I have a photo somewhere of a herring gull perched on top of one of these decoys ;-)
JeffreyWatt  
#14 Posted : 02 June 2015 08:39:12(UTC)
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JeffreyWatt

jwk wrote:
Problem is we can't have guns of any sort in any of our workplaces (international law I'm afraid).

John


Well that is no fun is it?

Consider putting a few cats on an IRATA level 3 course, ACME run some excellent courses, run by a Mr Richard Dastardly.

A good shot can humanely kill a pigeon with a very low energy pellet, 10 joules or less. A slingshot (catapult) can easily deliver 50 joules in the right hands with frangible projectiles that won't damage infrastructure too much (marbles, wax, fired clay).

All a waste of time if there is food available that draws them in, doors left open, multiple openings in the brickwork etc, dead ones get replaced.

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