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I have been looking at a safety data sheet, specifically at the H statements. One substance has amongst others the reference H360FD which has the statement "May damage Fertility. May damage the unborn child"
My question is regarding the "May damage Fertility" is that the fertility of both men and women or just women as it is coupled with "may damage the unborn child"
Obviously we will protect the men anyway, but just curious if this is specifically intend for women.
Chris
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By definition, fertility applies to both.
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If you look at the toxicology section of the sds there may be further information about whether it is male or female rodents or both whose fertility was damaged in the tests. But in general you should assume both unless there is reason to think otherwise.
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Thanks Both
No further info in the SDS, that would clarify. But yes I was going to play on the safe side and assume both. I just wondered if there was a way of telling for sure.
Putting aside any personal feelings on whether or not some of our employees should be allowed to reproduce, we will protect all. Sadly we can not change this substance.
Thanks for thinking about the issue.
Chris
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In my work I occasionally come across this sort of uncertain situation. Hazard statements cannot always be specific as they have to cover a multitude of circumstances. For example the hazard statement may only refer to the chemical in concentrated form whereas what is in the product is dilute.
My approach is then to look to see what additional information I can obtain on the particular chemical. This can also avoid the need to take excessive precautions.
If you PM me the offending chemical I will happily see what information I have in my databases on this.
Chris
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Thanks Chris have sent you a PM
Thanks Tec Boy for the link. I have had a go at the database, but I need to spend a bit longer on it (I think).
Cheers
Chris
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Fertility effects generally apply to both genders. The SDS will have more information The Classification and therefore the hazard statements in Section 2 of the SDS should take into account the concentration of the chemical ifd it is a mixture. (Section 3 should have the individual components of the mixture and its associated hazard statements) It is not enough now just to read the H-Staements on thier own you need to read what Category it is ( i.e. 1, 2, 3 etc) For substances, H360FD is for a Reprotoxic Category 1A, which mean that the classification of a substance in this Category 1 or 1A which is largely based on evidence from humans. Detailed guidance on how to apply the agreed classification criteria is provided by the European Chemicals Agency (ECHA) http://echa.europa.eu/do...s/10162/13562/clp_en.pdfHowever, for COSHH assessments, you have to consider the routes of entry to the person working and quite often, the risk can be fairly low ( as there is nothing such as zero risk!) with robust control measures.
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Thanks Pradeesh for the link, interesting, but no further info on Male / female.
Thanks Jay -Yes section 3 has the concentration and classification. The item has a concentration of 1 to 3 %. Classified as Repr cat 3, R63 (or Repr 2 H361fd from CLP)
and another chemical has a concentration up to 1%. Classified as Repr cat 2, R60/R61 (or Repr 1b H360fd from CLP). The substance is also diluted about 50% with water. I know that cat 2 is suspected and 1B is presumed, but I take that as it will have this effect. It gives no further information regarding gender.
Yes the other issue for me is the potential entry route to the body, again the SDS seems a little vague on this regarding the fertility issue. I think it is oral, as under the teratogenicity heading in section 11 against the two chemicals it has Positive- unreported and positive - oral. However in the first part of section 11 under potential and over exposure headings for ingestion it has harmful if swallowed, can cause stomach pains vomiting and diarrhoea - no mention of fertility.
Of course ingestion , inhalation and absorption are an issue with this product generally, so perhaps the question of the specific entry route regarding effects on fertility are mute, to a degree.
It was just as I was reviewing the SDS the questions came into my head and I thought I would ask. Its good to know new things or even confirm things I think I may know.
Chris
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