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As we are all painfully aware, we as safety professionals must always set an example and be the safest etc. Therefore, that is why a Drive a Volvo. Everyone safety person should, IMHO! I am now ashamed that in the past I have driven BMWs and an MG. So, if you don't drive a Volvo you are not setting an example. Discuss.
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Why?
My B in Law's Volvo XC60 was appalling except on tarmac and it is a 4x4.
The best car is the one that suits your physique and other needs
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Welcome to this Friday afternoon's nonsense thread !!
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haha so it's the brand of the car that makes you feel safe? How about concentrating on driving instead of phones and other multi media in your Volvo. Cheers!
By the way I drive Audi, and started long time ago in a Beetle :-)
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Volvo? BMW?
While certain brands may suggest you a safer level of design & manufacture, when was the last time you implemented successfully daily inspections before you use your car?
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Mmm, I work for a Charity; we only use Volvo (XC70) for service delivery, company car drivers get a Focus. Having said that, while 30 years ago a Volvo may have been significantly safer than e.g. a Ford, I guess the difference is not that great now. My Focus has air bags, ABS, ASR, SIB, UTC et al. It's hardly unsafe.
Now as for the drivers... They (sadly) don't seem to be evolving at the same rate as the cars,
John
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Ask any biker what make of car was most likely to pull out in front of them without looking. The answer would almost certainly be a Volvo. Cocconed in their safe little tin box, completely oblivious to the risk they created for other road users... Been a while since I used two wheels mind, so things may have changed!
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steve e ashton wrote:Ask any biker what make of car was most likely to pull out in front of them without looking. The answer would almost certainly be a Volvo. Cocconed in their safe little tin box, completely oblivious to the risk they created for other road users... Been a while since I used two wheels mind, so things may have changed!
Nothing has changed, other half had a broken back from a BMW that was late for a party, and has nerve damage in his leg from a Mazda- and he still gets on his bike, neither was his fault. I think its the mindset of the driver rather than the car. I have a Vauxhall- I am boring and slow off the lights- and I like it.
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Most reasonably sized saloons will have basically the same safety features as a Volvo, so to say we all should drive a Volvo is a bit OTT. My VW CC has plenty of safety features, doesn't stop me or another VW driver making a driving error and crashing does it?
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No no it's Volvo or nothing it's the only car for us safety bods. I always wear my cardigan and flat cap when driving mine at 15 MPH under the speed limit, it's compulsory for us Volvo drivers. Note: today is Friday................actually I drive Volvo because it is Ultra reliable and is superbly well engineered and equipped.........not because it is safe (although -superb in snow. They are Swedish though which explains that!)
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I have a little Hyundai and i feel as safe as I have ever done. I feel safer in my i20 than i did in a Landrover Defeder.
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A car is a hazard if properly maintained and well driven it causes relatively little risk. If badly driven and maintained the risk of harm increases, although the hazard has not changed, Insignia : )
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My 17 year old son is learning to drive, lessons with driving school and I bought him a car three weeks ago. Ten year old Diesel Renault Modus, 120,000 miles on the clock, full MOT and service history.
His driving is better than my wife's, I told him that and he told him mum, yes still alive up to now ha ha.
I took my son out for some work experience on Wednesday, he drove me through the Wallasey Mersey Tunnel and on through Liverpool into Bootle.
He assisted with the fire risk assessment I did then drove me home.
I have to say the old Renault is brill, I feel safe with both the car and his driving.
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Don't break down in the tunnel though, it'll cost yer an arm and a leg...
I once broke down just before the entrance to Wallasey on the Liverpool side, 100 yds more and work would have been paying.
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I hate cyclists ..... why don't they get a better job so they can afford a car !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And as for people riding horses on the public highway .... If my dog did that on the pavement I would get fined if I didn't use a poo bag...
And how can a horse do that and keep walking .. I've tried that and it doesn't work ...
Rant over
Have a great weekend everybody
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I must object I drive a mini and it is the safest car around. It is small and so the likliehood of it coming into contact with other vehicles or humans is less than if you where say driving a stretch limousine
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Must be a pre BMW mini if you are describing it as small - the wife's Korean number looks like a go-kart parked next to the current Countryman.
Anyway as "safety professionals" shouldn't we all be sat in a vehicle without a steering wheel where pre-ordained programming enacts our journey according to dictate and policy by a great and remote all controlling farce (No spell checker required!).
Remove the human - remove the problem.... Oops, some sixteen year old in the dark web has just seized control.... Aagh big brick wall approaching, no way to manually enact any avoiding action, still "Poodle has contacted Claim, Crash & Cash on my widows behalf" thanks to the EU mandated emergency call system in all vehicles.
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Must be a pre BMW mini if you are describing it as small - the wife's Korean number looks like a go-kart parked next to the current Countryman.
Anyway as "safety professionals" shouldn't we all be sat in a vehicle without a steering wheel where pre-ordained programming enacts our journey according to dictate and policy by a great and remote all controlling farce (No spell checker required!).
Remove the human - remove the problem.... Oops, some sixteen year old in the dark web has just seized control.... Aagh big brick wall approaching, no way to manually enact any avoiding action, still "Poodle has contacted Claim, Crash & Cash on my widows behalf" thanks to the EU mandated emergency call system in all vehicles.
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Alan W Houghton wrote:for me its a jaguar xf
Spot on Alan
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Read recently one of these driverless things ran into somebody
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Aaaah! These modern cars. When I first learnt to drive a whip and cape were mandatory, if I remember correctly. My first car was a 1934 Austin 7. I had a wonderful time with this and it really did teach car control. Crash gearbox (no synchromesh so double de-clutching necessary to change gear), windscreen wiper driven by vacuum from inlet manifold, so the faster you went the slower the wiper (yes, just the one) swept the screen, brakes from a bicycle I think. The only way up Porlock Weir hill was in reverse! It certainly taught you about maintaining distance and using engine to brake, particularly on long hills. Out of habit I still double de-clutch. Perhaps that is why on my VW Passat the clutch lasted for more than 250,000 miles. When I see how some drivers behave I wonder whether we should not insist they learn to drive on my first car. If they then passed the test (unlikely for many!) perhaps their driving might be a bit more considerate and sensible. As others have said, it isn't the car that is the hazard, it's the person behind the steering wheel.
Chris
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I have a new Mercedes and I recommend those for safety people. Mine tells me when im about to crash, when im falling sleep at the wheel and it also has auto lights so i never forget to put them on lol
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Having opted to take the car allowance from work, this week I have just taken delivery of SEAT Leon 1.6 Tdi SE. This version is called a Sports Tourer as it is no longer cool to have an Estate Car!
My other car is a bicycle which I will do about 3,500 miles on this year and tomorrow I will probably do 120.
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Since being in H&S I've been able to afford an Audi, reliability and ESP when I'm driving in city or very remote locations.
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I have a Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV on order, actually my daughter's motability vehicle.
It is a hybrid, electric/petrol vehicle, a neighbour has one and gets 38 miles on a single electric charge, he hasn't put petrol in since last October.
My charge point was installed a week or so ago.
Our plan is to use the electric charge for most journeys then plug in and charge and use again.
It is good for company car users, no congestion charge and other benefits besides.
It also looks good.
I recommend having a look at the website and/or youtube video.
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Firesafety - two observations: the phev is just about to get a facelift in Japan, and the UK tax claims of Mitsubishi have been dealt a blow as the supposed 5% BIK is rising to 7%. Company car drivers remain an obvious and available target of the treasury. Given the admission the rush to diesel may have prompted a rise in particulates anyone having the option of a company vehicle should consider petrol for the sake of their disposable income. For reference just look at the 480 guide from HMRC - previously exempt vehicles are now going to attract BIK. Currently in a 1.4L which still costs more than my previous 2.0 DiD
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Firesafety - two observations: the phev is just about to get a facelift in Japan, and the UK tax claims of Mitsubishi have been dealt a blow as the supposed 5% BIK is rising to 7%. Company car drivers remain an obvious and available target of the treasury. Given the admission the rush to diesel may have prompted a rise in particulates anyone having the option of a company vehicle should consider petrol for the sake of their disposable income. For reference just look at the 480 guide from HMRC - previously exempt vehicles are now going to attract BIK. Currently in a 1.4L which still costs more than my previous 2.0 DiD
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Volvo, Volvo!! A chinese car these days I believe ;-)
I think a Mercedes C63AMG would be a perfect car for a safety anorak. After all we are the experts on risk assessment and therefore can manage risk very effectively?
All I have to do is to persaude the boss to trade in the C class estate :-) :-0
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Roundtuit wrote:Firesafety - two observations: the phev is just about to get a facelift in Japan, and the UK tax claims of Mitsubishi have been dealt a blow as the supposed 5% BIK is rising to 7%. Company car drivers remain an obvious and available target of the treasury. Given the admission the rush to diesel may have prompted a rise in particulates anyone having the option of a company vehicle should consider petrol for the sake of their disposable income. For reference just look at the 480 guide from HMRC - previously exempt vehicles are now going to attract BIK. Currently in a 1.4L which still costs more than my previous 2.0 DiD
Roundtuit, thanks for the heads up. I wonder if I will get one of the facelifted cars, delivery date for me is 10th August ?
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I have never had a crash etc. and I have been driving since the late sixties ----- could the fact that as an example to others about safe driving I always lock up my cars and never drive them thus I am a real safety bod ----- I also wear a crash helmet safety boots and a high viz when I sit in them on my imaginary journeys and I believe that if we all do what I do the roads would be much safer [and the environment cleaner] and us safety bods would get an even better name in society than we have now
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Triumph 1300 (a wreck, but my first one)
Hillman Imp (dreadful)
Ford Escort (OK)
Ford Escort (OK)
Ford Fiesta (underpowered, blown engine)
Ford Escort (entry model, mediocre)
Ford Escort (entry model, mediocre)
Ford Sierra (felt more important. OK)
Ford Sierra Sapphire (OK)
Vauxhall Carlton (boat)
Alfa Romeo 164 (loved it, never let me down)
Citroen Xantia (weird suspension but OK)
Mitsubuishi Galant (OK)
Mercedes Benz C Class Sport (loved this one)
Nissan Primera (sleep-inducing)
Volvo S60 (eventually felt old enough, kept longer than any other car)
VW Passat CC (had to give it back too soon - great car)
Skoda Octavia (same as every other taxi)
Starting to thing about the next one.
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CDM - Chris Drives Mercedes
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My interest in cars extends to:
Value for money
Reliability
Cheap insurance
Getting from A to B in relative comfort
I bought a new Dacia Sandero Laureate last December - I'm happy with it. In the 33 years since I passed my test I have had three minor bumps in my car, two were my fault, the third was not. The last one which was my fault was in 1993. Safety is in the hands of the driver I feel although the car does score a 4 for safety overall which is fairly good.
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I was once told it's not the car that is unsafe but the nut behind the steering wheel.
Having dug my socket set out this weekend I have now removed said nut and must say I feel much safer for it, although steering is now a little hit-and-miss
Al
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I still recall trying to explain to a frustrated salesman that i didn't really care about the model, colour etc, all i needed was a car with practical boot large enough to take diving kit & the odd wheelchair.
Having said that i have dropped lucky with hire cars over the years, the best being the Mercedes C180 Kompressor that i had in Europe for 8 months.
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The original poster has obviously not attended a Midland branch East district meeting on safe driving! Its not the vehicle you drive its the numpty behind the wheel that's the problem!
Having sat through the safe driving presentation a few months later I had a go at the Aviva (usual disclaimer) app and scored 9.4/10. Previously it would have been a mediocre 7 or there abouts.
So, where's the issue?
Badger
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Some of you must have some pretty generous company car allowances!
Because we get our cars through a fleet provider and I'm a business need user not a contract privilege user I can only pick VW, Audi or BMW.
I get an allowed monthly rental allowance and I can pick, choose and specify pretty much what I want (up to a fixed percentage over my allowance) but If I go over my allowance, I pay the difference.
So it's a 1.6 diesel blue motion golf estate with no optional extra's (I'm not willing to pay for something I don't get to keep).
Interestingly though, the fleet company insisted it was fitted with the forward radar for emergency braking and tracking cruise control. Didn't cost me anything but I'm glad they did.
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I don't understand this thread....
We are safety professionals and therefore we must know every aspect of how to be safe and therefore we should all be allowed to have a Lamborghini as a company vehicle. After all, those without a Health and Safety qualification would only crash it, we are surely the safest people to drive them.
Right??
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I advise that what ever is used that its reliable hence [after guidance from the RAC, AA & similar breakdown front line people] I do not recommend VW, Audi or BMW as it would not look good if the H&S bod could not get to an investigation etc.; after all we are supposed to be the reliable people
NB: do as I do and lock up your cars as the roads are safer that way
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