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GB1977  
#1 Posted : 22 June 2015 11:33:28(UTC)
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GB1977

Hi All We have staff that we contract in to provide Healthcare. They are not considered perm staff. We are providing safety devices for them and it will be mandatory for them to attend the training to use these devices. It looks like they won't be paid to attend the training but will have to attend to enable them to continue working. HASWA states that you can't charge for something provide on the grounds of H&S and I feel that asking them to attend training at their own cost (2 hours of their time + travel in some cases) is effectively doing this. Thoughts?
walker  
#2 Posted : 22 June 2015 11:47:20(UTC)
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walker

Yes it is and no you can't. Treating agency supplied workers different to your perm staff is just asking for trouble at so many levels. What happens if a client gets hurt?
Alfasev  
#3 Posted : 22 June 2015 12:00:10(UTC)
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Alfasev

I agree, this is unacceptable and a clear breach. However it is the HSW Act section 2 (a) and MHSW regulation 13 you need to quote. However this is common practice with labour agencies. They try and class it as a qualification to do the job and not job specific training. I do not hold labour agencies with high regard but what you may find is that the decision not to pay them lies within your organisation!
Roundtuit  
#4 Posted : 22 June 2015 20:54:45(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Looking at your post the employer is providing new equipment upon which all staff are required to be trained to protect your clients (PUWER anybody?) - as service provisioner I know you have the duty to your recipients to ensure adequately trained staff and as such you should be arranging the training within their paid for hours - CBA = trainees x 2 hours x national minimum wage versus a claim for £****K plus the bad press impact upon future business and contracts. To me this is no different to a site specific induction i.e. our site, our rules, our arrangements, our equipment or does the employer make agency workers undertake this basic information exchange F.O.C. as well? Rant over.
Roundtuit  
#5 Posted : 22 June 2015 20:54:45(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Looking at your post the employer is providing new equipment upon which all staff are required to be trained to protect your clients (PUWER anybody?) - as service provisioner I know you have the duty to your recipients to ensure adequately trained staff and as such you should be arranging the training within their paid for hours - CBA = trainees x 2 hours x national minimum wage versus a claim for £****K plus the bad press impact upon future business and contracts. To me this is no different to a site specific induction i.e. our site, our rules, our arrangements, our equipment or does the employer make agency workers undertake this basic information exchange F.O.C. as well? Rant over.
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