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Just wondered how other safety professionals see their role, or how others perceive your role.
Do you advise and persuade or do you dictate ?
I ask because a couple of times recently after discussions on certain issues I have emailed my 2 senior directors giving my opinion on how we should proceed. When doing this I try to keep my emails as concise and unambiguous as possible but I do advise rather than dictate or demand. My Project Director replied to an email recently suggesting that I should get off the fence and make a decision. However, the final line of my email to him on the given issue had been as below....
....."I think to allow their use in any other situation would be unacceptable".
To me, I was nowhere near the fence, I had made my feeling / opinion perfectly clear.
I felt that, as business owner and Projects Director the decision on this issue should be his. Even if he completely agrees with me the decision is still his to take.
How do others see their role and how does it work out in practice ?
Thanks
Andy
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fiesta wrote:
....."I think to allow their use in any other situation would be unacceptable".
Without context, does suggest a degree of ambiguity. Presumably the unacceptable is acceptable in at least one situation. That's a bit of a mixed message.
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Hi Ron,
Thanks for your response.
The context...
We were discussing my recent post on here about Bump Caps.
i.e they are acceptable in tight areas such as riser cupboards, small ceiling voids where the risk is of bumping your head rather than having something fall on it..... I think to allow their use in any other...etc. etc.
We had discussed it at length.
Andy
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You are an adviser (unless your JD says differently).
Your directors want you to make decisions for them. (common)
In the context given, its 'policy' setting - as in 'this is the way we are going to do things here'. Who makes policy?
BTW I did glance at the bump cap thread, and wondered if different colours (hard hat v bump cap) would help. I also wonder how hard you can actually bump your head in really small spaces such as small ceiling voids.
Set out options, and ask which they want to opt for.
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It's all of the above.
Senior managers would like you to persuade, middle managers would like you to advise and supervisors would like you to go forth and multiply!
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If I am allowed one comment...
I note in the original posting the term 'safety professional'. Surely that should read 'safety and health' professional! After all, this is the IOSH forum, or is it an indication that this profession should not concern itself with occupational health issues.
At a conference in London last week it was pointed out that the U.K. has done extremely well in preventing fatal accidents - just over 100 per annum. However, our profession has done less well with preventing fatalities due to ill health, with an estimated 13,000 annually! The speaker commented that this equates to some 27 A380 airbuses crashing annually each with a full load of passengers.
Has the profession got its priorities right?
Chris
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Chris
I agree with you, a good point well made. And one which, at a stroke, pretty much renders rather pointless all those accident outcome graphs & reports we produce.
I admit I skip the . . 'Health and' . . for brevity in certain cases, but also more generally because of it's connotation nowadays (silly voice "elf n safety") but I do use 'H&S' in the written form as a good short-cut.
I'm also fine with the term 'Safety and health professional' (practitioner, consultant, whatever) as you have written, but it doesn't abbreviate well as well.
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I do all three
I advise on the legalities of issues or best practice.
I persuade when I want new equipment or upgrades.
I dictate when the rules for health and safety are necessary.
So, everything really ...
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As a consultant, my role is to learn, evaluate and then advise, using persuasion as necessary.
I write my own letters/emails/reports so don't dictate!
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hilary wrote:I do all three
I advise on the legalities of issues or best practice.
I persuade when I want new equipment or upgrades.
I dictate when the rules for health and safety are necessary.
So, everything really ...
I also do all (but try not to sound like I'm dictating unless the advice hasn't gone down well/been taken up). When I became Tech I was offered a change of title (previously Compliance Administrator as I also have an assistant Co Sec role) to H&S Manager, I declined and opted for H&S Officer as I wanted to make it plain that I wasn't responsible for the management of H&S - department managers were.
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