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jon joe  
#1 Posted : 03 July 2015 10:20:25(UTC)
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jon joe

Looking to purchase some pocket size risk assessment books, for our maintenance team, for when they are carrying out different tasks around site...Rang several suppliers, and tried google, but no luck...Anyone know any suppliers or links which could help

thanks
Animax01  
#2 Posted : 03 July 2015 10:39:17(UTC)
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Animax01

Hi Jon Joe,

I have an a4 laminated sheet of paper that has all the usual hazards and a risk matrix on the bottom and on the reverse is a collection of control measures.

I use this as a prompt when I walk around, it's not full proof and requires the individual to be aware and use their initiative. I can email it over if you want a copy.

Pete
aud  
#3 Posted : 03 July 2015 10:42:23(UTC)
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aud

Jon Joe
Not clear to me what you mean.
Are you wanting a method for people to record their own local RA findings? (that route suggests the app method?)
Or do you mean a book they can look in for information on safety procedures (rules) which may arise from your own RA findings or standard industry practice?

jon.aston@inbox.com  
#4 Posted : 03 July 2015 11:23:22(UTC)
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jon.aston@inbox.com

Joe,

What industry is it you're in? I'm offshore and any task to be carried out first must have a toolbox talk on location with a PRAC(Pre-Risk Assessment Check) Sheet completed. The PRAC helps you identify, with the aid of prompts, any associated hazards and any actions required to control those hazards. I can forward you a copy if you require. It is relative to the offshore industry but could easily be tailored to any other industry.

Jon
Safety Smurf  
#5 Posted : 03 July 2015 11:32:41(UTC)
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Safety Smurf

Hi Jon Joe,

I've made up something similar in the past for 'OS' books. Used 6" x 4" photo albums with information printed onto 6" x 4" index cards. you end up with roughly an A6 pocket book with printed pages that can be changed easily if necessary.
jon joe  
#6 Posted : 03 July 2015 12:06:42(UTC)
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jon joe

aud wrote:
Jon Joe
Not clear to me what you mean.
Are you wanting a method for people to record their own local RA findings? (that route suggests the app method?)
Or do you mean a book they can look in for information on safety procedures (rules) which may arise from your own RA findings or standard industry practice?



Basically, we have many maintenance staff on our sites. They undertake numerous work tasks daily, sometimes it might be one job, sometimes 5 in one day. As a Permit wouldn't be required for all their jobs, I would like them to RA each work activity, but obviously something that is quick and effective
jay  
#7 Posted : 03 July 2015 12:27:41(UTC)
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jay

I doubt that you will get it.

I think that the term "risk assessment" is very much over used, especially wnen it is used generically.
Our Fm Contractor has a version that they have compiled on thier owm, but they term it as "Last Minute Risk Assessment" which in essence is a checklist/prompt to remind them of some crtical aspects. Such checklist supplement other formal work systems such as procedures etc. Such checklists have pro & cons. The pros are obvious. The cons are that there is unlikely to be any flexibility of the user sing their own competence to ensure controls without getting athorisation from above to proceed, especially for routine tasks.
jay  
#8 Posted : 03 July 2015 12:31:47(UTC)
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jay

Just google "Last Minute Risk assessment"-you may get examples !
Ron Hunter  
#9 Posted : 03 July 2015 12:56:11(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

jon joe wrote:

I would like them to RA each work activity, but obviously something that is quick and effective


Effective in achieving......what, exactly?

I'd rather gather a bit of feedback on the unusual circumstance and solutions your people have to deal with, maybe via monthly or weekly feedback. Usefully this would include photos and voice records captured on camera phones.
That feedback might in turn udefully impact on the employer's formal risk assessment and SSoW.

I'd have real difficulty selling what you propose to the workforce.
jon joe  
#10 Posted : 03 July 2015 14:19:28(UTC)
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jon joe

Ron Hunter wrote:
jon joe wrote:

I would like them to RA each work activity, but obviously something that is quick and effective


Effective in achieving......what, exactly?

I'd rather gather a bit of feedback on the unusual circumstance and solutions your people have to deal with, maybe via monthly or weekly feedback. Usefully this would include photos and voice records captured on camera phones.
That feedback might in turn udefully impact on the employer's formal risk assessment and SSoW.

I'd have real difficulty selling what you propose to the workforce.


looking back at some accidents suffered by maintenance, they seemed to be caused by, and I quote 'just rushed straight into the job after my last one'...what I would like, is for the maintenance staff, to stop, assess what they are doing (even if it takes a minute), before they begin work on another task...hopefully the risk assessment book, might make them think more
Ron Hunter  
#11 Posted : 03 July 2015 14:35:49(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

OK. Seems doubtful that will make people slow down though. Better to find out why they feel the need to rush. Rush jobs tend to come back and bite in several ways.
chris42  
#12 Posted : 03 July 2015 14:36:58(UTC)
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chris42

Is this what you are talking about.

http://forum.iosh.co.uk/?g=posts&t=108000

I have also heard the term take 2 as well as 5

Chris
aud  
#13 Posted : 03 July 2015 14:40:29(UTC)
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aud

Perhaps you could get a better idea of 'the problem' by analysing incidents (and other types of feedback) more thoroughly. 'Just rushed into job after my last one' suggests a few things:
1) This is the employees words and does not constitute a proper 'cause', even if the investigating manager had put it.
2) There is a line manager investigation - isnt there?
3) Regardless of (2) it is unlikely the quality of the investigation will really uncover contributing factors at line manager level (my experience) "told to take more care" being a common rectification comment.
4) This is where you can get involved: really dig down and unpick.

Then look at some of the options others offer.
jon joe  
#14 Posted : 03 July 2015 15:28:11(UTC)
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jon joe

aud wrote:
Perhaps you could get a better idea of 'the problem' by analysing incidents (and other types of feedback) more thoroughly. 'Just rushed into job after my last one' suggests a few things:
1) This is the employees words and does not constitute a proper 'cause', even if the investigating manager had put it.
2) There is a line manager investigation - isnt there?
3) Regardless of (2) it is unlikely the quality of the investigation will really uncover contributing factors at line manager level (my experience) "told to take more care" being a common rectification comment.
4) This is where you can get involved: really dig down and unpick.

Then look at some of the options others offer.


great suggestions...previous place I worked, had the same book im looking for...they worked well...im new to the company and we are beginning a change of culture, so I am looking at the root causes of previous accidents etc...but, until I am happy I can change the mindset, I would like something like the book, which is a short term solution, amongst others
jon joe  
#15 Posted : 03 July 2015 15:30:52(UTC)
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jon joe

Chris42 wrote:
Is this what you are talking about.

http://forum.iosh.co.uk/?g=posts&t=108000

I have also heard the term take 2 as well as 5

Chris


thanks for the link, quite good that
AdrianQ  
#16 Posted : 05 July 2015 10:20:11(UTC)
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AdrianQ

Hi Jon,

I work in the oil and gas industry and we use a risk assessment pocket size prior to commencement of any task. It's referred to as a start card or 5x5 card. This is used by each individual worker to identity hazards, if any additional requirements are required, if the task is high, medium or low, and then signed off by the individual and supervisor prior to commencement of the task. They are pretty good tool if used correctly.

Adrian
fscott  
#17 Posted : 06 July 2015 10:19:53(UTC)
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fscott

I used to work in the quarrying industry and we developed a Point of Work Safety Assessment for our maintenance staff to use prior to each task. It was an A4 sheet which was in duplicate form; the white copy went to the manager to review and to be considered during the review of formal risk assessments and the yellow copy went with the job card for the maintenance files. We provided training to each maintenance employee of the principles of risk assessment, practical training on carrying out risk assessment and the completion of the forms and it seemed to work quite well. I'd be happy to share the form with you; if you want it please PM me with your email address.
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