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If your Company has several different sites, with one or two trading under a different name but coming under the Company 'umbrella'...DOes each site have to be ceretified separately, or is there a way of havev certification done once to cover ALL sites
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Not sure about that Jon Joe - we have four sites that are each individually accredited; sounds to me as if even thought there is one holding Co if each site operates under its own steam then each would have to apply for accreditation.
Stu
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In a previous life I worked for a company that had multiple sites- we didn't have to get them all certified separately.
In the scope of the system we defined the sites.
Andy
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We have a number of sites and one registration with them all listed. Not sure about having different trading names though. I think it may be possible as a few years ago I applied for a job and in the research I did they were a collective of small company's acting as one and they seemed to have a single registration.
I think you will have to ask an assessing company. Now some will not want to discuss over the phone and will want to visit. Others I had a productive phone call.
Chris
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Yes, it will be in the scope, and even if the "Certification" is for the plc or holfing organisation, the annexes to the main certificate will have the scope etc and also you will be charged accordingly.
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Jon joe
We have a Group of companies and 1 certificate with a certificate schedule listing the units. The auditor will assess each business unit though. For example we operate in 4 different geographical locations to have 4 risk registers and 4 legal compliance registers, but all operate under 1 policy and 1 set of management procedures. Differences in operational processes is key.
Jonty
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In effect you as client define the scope for the accreditation body.
There are advantages and disadvantages for both a single all encompassing certification, or a collection of individuals. Talk to the organisation that certifies.
Just from the top of my head;
- a single cert means shared policies, documents, etc. but can aslo mean if one site fails - then you all fail, or if one procedure is flawed, then all sites operate to a shared flawed policy.
- multiple certs mean you can change pace according to sites, but also means probably 5 different ways of doing the same thing, also 5 separate aduits and costs, etc.
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Yes you can have one cert covering all sites. 😀
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Hi Jon Joe,
I think this issue will become easier once the new ISO45001:2016 comes in late next year.
Clause 4 of ISO45001 (in common with all the Annex SL-aligned ISO Management System Standards) will talk about Context of the Organization. This is where you are able to define what your organisation is in terms of internal and external stakeholders etc. You can therefore clarify your relationship with the subsidiary companies etc. at the outset. I have only had sight of the CD for now so can't confirm any more detail than that. I can point you towards ISO9001:2015 though, which will basically have the same core text (not quite find 'OS&H' replace with 'QA' but near enough!).
The comment about 5 sites meaning 5 opportunities to fail to comply is a valid one! But then so is the argument for having one single cost and process as opposed to 5!
Cheers
Ian
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