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Russ1977  
#1 Posted : 27 October 2015 17:02:06(UTC)
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Russ1977

Couple of quick questions if I may please guys and girls. 1. In your opinions what would be the main areas of concern, health and safety at a school. 2. Would you have any tips, ideas, "must do's" regarding the successful implementation of health and safety policy in such an environment. I would be very appreciative of any pointers. Thank you all in advance. Russ
bob youel  
#2 Posted : 27 October 2015 19:27:37(UTC)
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bob youel

if u give a description it would help e.g. ID what type of school in what type of location etc.
Russ1977  
#3 Posted : 27 October 2015 20:23:55(UTC)
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Russ1977

hi bob, thanks for the response. If it helps its a private school, rural location. cheers
Zaillen  
#4 Posted : 28 October 2015 07:10:30(UTC)
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Zaillen

Hi - having previously worked in a vocational college i found the following with education - 1) - enabling staff to understand safety and its practical application within the education sector (this is a lot harder than it sounds) - Trip control and assessment - work placements / experience - workshops (if you have them) - COSHH - (science depts // get in touch with CLEEPS for hazcards) - equipment standards and compliance (especially around LOLER) - monthly basic inspections to make sure stuff like lights, chairs, etc are all ok. - general maintenance 2) - get the SMT involved from the get go, encourage them to make the decisions and involve them as much as possible (without going overboard) - remember that teachers are very very very busy people, everything you do must be simple and easy to implement - use your safety systems to encourage better learning experience. i did this and it worked amazingly well, find a way to use your system not just for improving safety for the school but also to use as training aids and tools for the students (wont work when not in vocational sector) - do an operational statement - keep all your systems as open as possible in a central location so everybody knows the one place to go to for safety stuff sorry this response is a bit rushed but if you PM me i can send you some stuff over ive used quite successfully previously in education. all the best
Sunstone  
#5 Posted : 28 October 2015 08:33:29(UTC)
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Scotty C

Hi Russ You have a pm. Cheers S.
chas  
#6 Posted : 28 October 2015 08:42:33(UTC)
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chas

Nothing much to add to the previous posters contributions, although a look at the new ISI guidance on inspections may also help give you some pointers in terms of what the inspecting authorities will be looking at. They are increasingly looking at the H&S management systems and risk assessment in private/independent schools and also safeguarding issues.
andrewjb1  
#7 Posted : 28 October 2015 09:52:29(UTC)
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andrewjb1

The health and safety issues are pretty much the same as any other workplace, a few specifics to look at: Emergency Evacuation Drills, these are usually termly in a School depending on the student intake turnover. Also check if they have fire marshals or sweep the building or if they are reliant on a roll call. Glass and Glazing - The Schools usually have a survey or this should be considered as part of the inspections Asbestos and control of contractors, also remember contractors should have a full induction and there may also be close working with the safeguarding teams Driving, how do they train mini bus drivers, do they do driver due diligence and training i.e. MIDAS training and if its a multi site do staff have relevant business insurance to drive School gates and perimeter fencing - usually require risk assessments Tress - Most Councils complete tree surveys for their School sites and we have continued to do this as an Academy First Aid - ensuring sufficient provision is in place for students and staff - there is usually a separate first aid room Hard wiring inspections, most Schools do the hard wiring inspections every five years or 20% each year, also look at the PAT testing. Don't forget to look at activities that take place outside core School hours i.e. evening classes, summer clubs etc. ie first aid provision, fire etc. Most Schools have science areas so COSHH needs to be considered for those areas, kilns, fume cupboards etc. Also The School should have a Disaster Recovery Plan which needs to take into consideration the PREVENT strategy i.e. potential terror threats and how they control / potential misuse of COSHH And looking at any other activities on site ie do they have a swimming pool or animals on site Couple of guides might help: https://www.gov.uk/gover...ards-for-school-premises http://www.hse.gov.uk/services/education/
Russ1977  
#8 Posted : 28 October 2015 12:15:47(UTC)
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Russ1977

I would like to thank all that replied very much I have found this to be very helpful indeed. Cheers guys.
Colossians 1:14  
#9 Posted : 29 October 2015 07:46:44(UTC)
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Colossians 1:14

Don't forget the hazards from playing conkers!
bob youel  
#10 Posted : 29 October 2015 07:54:38(UTC)
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bob youel

2 additional hazards to think about are powerful school governor's and parents [who are usually rich] who are used to getting their own away and have their own agendas [and usually have their own companies who do work for the school] - these hazards are the hardest to manage so U need very good people skills and to be aware best of luck
douglas.dick  
#11 Posted : 29 October 2015 09:00:42(UTC)
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douglas.dick

I would also suggest that RA must be carried out on vulnerable and problem children. This would be to ensure adequate supervision was in place and ensure that the staff are also protected. Certain pupils may require at least two staff to be present at all times, restrictions on the activities carried out etc.
Lawlee45239  
#12 Posted : 29 October 2015 13:56:18(UTC)
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Lawlee45239

I am a private school parent - we are by no means rich !!! These are what I can think of off the top of my head; 1. Emergency plans (fire, flood, explosion, terror/ arson) 2. First aid basic, and first aid for allergies and chocking and other medical issues (and if there are babies in the school if there is an adjoining nursery). Administering medicines Policy and associated forms. (training if specialist medicines are required). 3. Asbestos in the building - plan and assessments 4. PAT testing of appliances 5. Kitchen - sharps, burns, hygiene, food poisoning, cross contamination, allergies 6. Science room - chemicals, PPE for all, fire extinuishers, contact allergies 7. Traffic management - getting to/from school (buses, RANGE ROVERS!!, bikes, walking), pedestrian routes, segregation from traffic. 8. Child safe guarding - DBS checks on all staff. School signing in/out procedure. CCTV 9. School trips - transport, insurances, helpers, accounting for kids, emergency plans 10. Sporting facilities/ sports - swimming pool/ gymnastics equipment, high jump equipment, playing rugby) 11. External companies using the school for camps/ after school club/ birthday parties or other events. 12. Insurances (what it does and doesn’t cover) 13. PTA/ School friends - this organisation usually goes amiss on a schools agenda - they will need inclusion in insurance and RA done for their events. Event licences for sale of alcohol. 14. (Anti) Bullying Policy & training 15. Working hours – although teachers are preserved as working 9-3, they do come in from 07.30 for breakfast club, lunch supervision and can stay till 6.30 for after school care. Not to mention parent evenings also. 16. VDU’s – office staff and pupils alike in ITC classes 17. Photos/ videoing at school plays – allowed/ not allowed/social media 18. Copyright 19. HR/ accounts – confidentiality of paperwork and bank details 20. Waste management (recycling/ reuse)
bob youel  
#13 Posted : 02 November 2015 08:30:31(UTC)
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bob youel

another one is 'working time' as the hours expected and put in by most teachers and even others in schoools is way beyond sensible
bob youel  
#14 Posted : 03 November 2015 16:33:44(UTC)
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bob youel

woops about the 'working time' area as Lawlee has covered it already - sorry update: the HSE have just told me that the Department for Education and Ofsted are also responsible for H&S in schools -- but, and 'but' is all I will say best of luck
stevie40  
#15 Posted : 05 November 2015 18:10:56(UTC)
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stevie40

Russ, sorry for late response. Up until a couple of months ago I used to survey public schools for one of the leading school insurers. Some of the issues I used to come across are below, hopefully not repeating the excellent responses from Lawlee and andrewjb. Maintenance Department - often engaged in work at height, or on heritage properties within the campus. Many of the public schools I saw had their own mobile tower scaffolds or cherry picker so appropriate training was needed. Grounds keepers - they would often work with chainsaws on tree felling operations on the large estates. We were happy with ground based work using 2 handed chainsaws and with appropriate training / PPE. Tree work with ropes and top handed chainsaws was a bit of a no no as far as we were concerned. Too specialist a job and best to get the pros in. Grounds keeping equipment - some potential for HAVS with strimmers etc. Overview assessment to see if there is an issue. Equipment guarding, e.g. PTO shaft guards on tractors. Work around animals. Horses, pigs and cattle were common on school sites. Usual zoonosis issues plus lone working issues with stable hands often working alone outside of lesson periods. Pool plant room - often used as a dumping ground for excess furniture. Also ensure the security of the plant room to prevent children entering. Emergency first aid and RPE. Assault on staff. A lesser issue in public schools although there are such schools catering for children with ASD and ADHD. Look at systems like Team Teach training and ensure policies and procedures are up to scratch. Slips trips and falls - the major cause of claims that we saw. Look for unprotected edges / drops at site level changes, consider winter gritting routes and procedures, general site maintenance for potholes and raised flagstones. As an insurer, I used to examine the relationship between the H&S responsible person and the head of the school. I would expect to see regular meetings between them, senior school staff attending H&S meetings or H&S at least discussed during leadership meetings. Often H&S was devolved to the head of facilities or maintenance and unless they had the weight of the SMT behind them, they could find it difficult to make a difference.
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