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Member of staff in call center , gets up from desk, trips over own feet, falls to the ground, bangs head and is out for a few minutes. Paramedic called off to hospital but released in a couple of hours told to rest. Will be over 7 days according to the IP.
Riddor
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Bill6152 wrote:Member of staff in call center , gets up from desk, trips over own feet, falls to the ground, bangs head and is out for a few minutes. Paramedic called off to hospital but released in a couple of hours told to rest. Will be over 7 days according to the IP.
Riddor
Is the IP a clown with size 30 shoes?
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Great, just what you need. I love how IPs know the future as well.
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If the work and workplace conditions did not contribute then no.
Really over 7 days off ?
Chris
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Why the abject terror of reporting ??????
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I tripped over something at home on a Wednesday night (coming up to a bank holiday weekend). Ended up not being back in till the following Wednesday due to concussion.
Obviously mine wasn't at work or work related but just showing that there is potential for that amount of time off.
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I would say - why waste your time (and the time of others) by reporting something that doesn't need to be reported???
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Alistair wrote:I would say - why waste your time (and the time of others) by reporting something that doesn't need to be reported???
“work-related accident” means an accident arising out of or IN CONNECTION with work. (emphasis mine, from the regs)
I suppose its up to the courts to decide in define the above!
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Thanks Hally
It seemed like a long time that's all. NHS suggest 48 hours of monitoring and I know people can feel a bit queasy for a couple of days but over 7 seemed a lot.
If it does not meet any of the three tests in any perceivable way, then the HSE suggest you should not report it.
Chris
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Chris42 wrote:Thanks Hally
It seemed like a long time that's all. NHS suggest 48 hours of monitoring and I know people can feel a bit queasy for a couple of days but over 7 seemed a lot.
If it does not meet any of the three tests in any perceivable way, then the HSE suggest you should not report it.
Chris
Yep, suppose it's also how hard and where you may hit. I'm not a doctor obviously but it completely wrecked me for 5 full days with the last day to make sure i had no issues anymore.
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Chris42 wrote:Thanks Hally
It seemed like a long time that's all. NHS suggest 48 hours of monitoring and I know people can feel a bit queasy for a couple of days but over 7 seemed a lot.
If it does not meet any of the three tests in any perceivable way, then the HSE suggest you should not report it.
Chris
The definition is too woolly for me Chris
The regs state as one of triggers "the manner of conducting an undertaking;" (the way the work was carried out - HSE website).
Knowing my luck, if I didn't report, my RIDDOR/non RIDDOR incident would be the test cast used to define the definition!!!!!!
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Yes better examples from the HSE would help no end.
There was another post where people were disagreeing on the RIDDOR. IP slipped of curb edge. For me it would be down to things like footwear problems or being asked to rush from Point A to Point B would make it in connection with work and the way the work was undertaken, so if these wee an issue I would report, if not then no.
For this one if the IP agrees they just fell over their own feet nothing to do with conditions of the office ( Excessive temp or anything) then No. If dubious floor covering, excessive heat then perhaps.
We never quite get enough info to really decide, but purely going on the limited info above I would say No.
To be honest when you see the fines for company's caught doing really bad things, it makes you wonder, why be stressed over Riddor. £280 for the people on that scaffolding after ignoring the HSE the first time.
Chris
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We really need more info. What's the layout, the temperature, the work-rate, long hours culture etc etc???
If the IP fell over at the end of a fourteen hour shift, or is in a cramped untidy office, or has not got a proper workstation, or any one of a large number of other factors, then it is arising our of or in connection with work, if not then not,
John
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Had someone fall over their own feet and broke their arm, slipped down the stairs and broke a foot, slipped down a kerb and face planted into the floor and broke their nose (not all the same company or same person) and took the view not to report due to none of the injuries being caused by work acitivity (not carrying anything required for work) or due to defects in the work place (poor lighting, trip hazards, pot holes etc).
Although if you did report would be intrested in how you would stop it from happening again :)
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