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simon73  
#1 Posted : 13 November 2015 09:47:16(UTC)
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simon73

I have completed NEBOSH General and am 70% of the way through the diploma. I have just seen several jobs advertised in my area (Lincs) asking for the diploma offering below £23000, is this normal?
stamper  
#2 Posted : 13 November 2015 10:16:40(UTC)
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stamper

Given the sheer volume of people gaining general certs and a lot of offshore coming onshore I dare say there's in excess of 30 people going for the same job so employers can effectively be quite frugal with salary because there is always someone who will do it for such a modest amount unfortunately.
Ian Bell2  
#3 Posted : 13 November 2015 10:36:27(UTC)
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Ian Bell2

Regional factors should be considered as well - Lincolnshire is a relatively low paid area, but then again houses are much cheaper than other parts of the country.
Owen24  
#4 Posted : 13 November 2015 11:16:51(UTC)
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Owen24

I'm from Lincoln myself and am always keeping an eye on jobs in the area. Sadly there doesn't seem much budge on the wages past £30k, but when you look at the area with regards to the lack of work and cheap housing you can see why the wages are low.

Maybe look around the Nottingham or Sheffield area, I know it means travelling but the wages seem to be better.

Good luck
Bigmac1  
#5 Posted : 13 November 2015 11:40:54(UTC)
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Bigmac1

£23000 is an insult
walker  
#6 Posted : 13 November 2015 11:54:57(UTC)
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walker

Bigmac1 wrote:
£23000 is an insult


Not if the alternative is being out of work.
As others have said its a buyers market
stamper  
#7 Posted : 13 November 2015 12:17:50(UTC)
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stamper

I would agree it's somewhat of a modest salary but I always try to see if there are any other benefits with a package such as company vehicle, training opportunities which will stand you in greater stead for future applications. I look for career development prospects as much as I do salary.
simon73  
#8 Posted : 13 November 2015 15:25:09(UTC)
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simon73

Thanks for all the comments, I am only window shopping out of curiosity however I was very surprised by the diploma not demanding a higher salary in this area.
pete48  
#9 Posted : 13 November 2015 16:08:05(UTC)
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pete48

The other element in this scenario is the fact that many positions asking for Dip don't really need that level of qualification.

It's the same with Chartered status. How many employers, for example, employ fully chartered accountants to do the books or fully chartered engineers to do the machinery maintenance. Not many I would wager.

Look carefully at the job and the business size and activity then judge the salaries being offered.
ashley84  
#10 Posted : 13 November 2015 16:08:27(UTC)
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ashley84


Also I would look at the position itself, is it a manager, advisor, coordinator or officer that they want.
stamper  
#11 Posted : 13 November 2015 17:53:13(UTC)
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stamper

ashley84 wrote:

Also I would look at the position itself, is it a manager, advisor, coordinator or officer that they want.


Do you think there's much of a difference between advisor, coordinator or officer? For me it's pretty much the same job with a different title.
chris42  
#12 Posted : 15 November 2015 11:19:28(UTC)
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chris42

Poor reward considering the cost of the course, having to keep up to date and consequences should you make a mistake.

Thing is that people wanting to get a foot in the door, will take it and use as a stepping stone. Organisation are unlikely to keep someone long term and this may reflect the attitude of the company.

Or they simply can't afford any more as it is a growing company and have just hit the level where in-house advice is the way to go.

IMHO
Chris
Safety Man 1  
#13 Posted : 15 November 2015 15:31:32(UTC)
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Safety Man 1

We all have started at the bottom of the. Ladder before
dhally  
#14 Posted : 26 November 2015 11:40:08(UTC)
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dhally

A simple foot onto a ladder would do me
PawelPtak  
#15 Posted : 11 December 2015 10:04:20(UTC)
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PawelPtak

There is nothing to complain about. Everyone must go through it and climb the career ladder .
ballyclover  
#16 Posted : 11 December 2015 12:53:31(UTC)
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ballyclover

I'm finding the same in my area, Fortunate to be in 30k plus job already, but local to me they are paying around 20-23 thou for H and S managers, less for advisors.

sometimes you need to take a step down to move forward. Company cars, fuel allowance can all add up to a decent wage, even though the take home pay is less.

Since becoming Grad, I am very surprised by the number of H and S people out there, in my opinion its pretty swamped.
simon73  
#17 Posted : 17 December 2015 11:56:11(UTC)
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simon73

I have just seen an advertisement for a "Health and Safety Executive" starting at £19,000 with responsibility for managing H&S on a food manufacturing site. I'm getting the impression that Manager,officer,advisor, coordinator, executive means pretty much the same thing to many employers but does it make a difference in terms of legal responsibilities etc?
Safety Man 1  
#18 Posted : 18 December 2015 18:22:47(UTC)
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Safety Man 1

Yes as a manager you are managing the H&S and as an advisor, you are advising people how to comply with H&S
simon73  
#19 Posted : 22 December 2015 12:06:43(UTC)
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simon73

.......ok so my question was asked as I don't believe many employers make that distinction so many 'advisors' are effectively managing etc does the actual job title matter legally or would it depend on a job description?
Safety Man 1  
#20 Posted : 22 December 2015 21:29:26(UTC)
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Safety Man 1

The job title does count legally, as a manager if things go pear shaped you would very likely to go to court, saying that an advisor was recently jailed for not advising correctly.
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