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walker		#41 Posted : 10 December 2015 12:18:53(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		Ron Hunter wrote: May be of interest to those interested in discussion: http://www.dailymail.co....-hush-hush-solution.html Seems some are prepared to spend more on a washing machine than on some of the cars I've bought!! They look perfect for when you are trying to relax in the home cinema installed in the dug out basement. It's damn annoying when the servants (cheap illegals, so slaves really) are using appliances, like those that little people buy, on the next floor.
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jwk		#42 Posted : 10 December 2015 13:11:32(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		Ray, the Miele in the Mail article may cost more than some of the cars you've bought, but I can guarantee it will last longer! Chris's comment about appliances lasting no more than five years is true, except for Miele, they have a different design philosophy. We had a Miele vacuum cleaner, when it broke down we replaced it with another Miele; it was a hard call, it had only lasted 17 years... I have no links to Miele at all, by the way, I just like the way they engineer their products. Oh well, it's come to this, discussing domestic appliances on a health and safety forum. Wake me when it's all over, John
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Invictus		#43 Posted : 10 December 2015 14:18:25(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		I have an electric fan and all I can hear is buzzing from it can anyone tell me how I stop this. This is in my house but strangely the one in work does the same. Thanks in advance
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firesafety101		#44 Posted : 10 December 2015 14:48:52(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		Not sure if I like the jokes, reason being my dog jumped in the washing machine yesterday. Don't worry, at least he died in comfort. I see no reason not to ask advice from professional H&S people, there will always be someone who knows the answer. I am always happy to provide advice regarding Fire Safety without ridiculing the OP. How about this one, people who massage at home using oils, and who doesn't? haha, and if they wash their oil impregnated towels at 30 degrees, and then dry those towels in the tumble dryer are at risk of fire. Reason being the oils require a higher temperature wash to get them off the towel and the tumble dryer produces a hot enough temperature to ignite the oils. They can even self ignite in airing cupboard. A bit of industrial advice for people at home. http://www.dailymail.co....sential-oils-remain.html Thank you all who provided sensible advice, the rest are all (a word I am unable to say on this forum)
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walker		#45 Posted : 10 December 2015 14:56:47(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		I've been called worse
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watcher		#46 Posted : 10 December 2015 15:02:43(UTC)
Rank: Forum user		Citing the DM as research? I see the Christmas spirit has come early. There's no other explanation. I call House
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Invictus		#47 Posted : 10 December 2015 15:10:53(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		Clothing and towels etc can self combust even without oils, if you turn the dryer off without it finishing the cycle and leave the stuff in. Happened twice at a place I worked. Now isn't it good we are all playing nicely:)
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biker1		#48 Posted : 10 December 2015 17:00:53(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		I thought reputable brand washing machines these days all have a balance sensor that will stop it going into spin if an imbalance is detected, thus stopping noisy spins resulting from a bad balance of clothes in the machine, and indeed the machine doing the time honoured shuffle across the kitchen floor. Ours does, and although it can be frustrating at times, it does protect the machine and our ears. If the machine in question doesn't have such a feature, I would suggest buying a better machine.
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RayRapp		#49 Posted : 11 December 2015 09:04:27(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		Firesafety, don't be too touchy as there is some good advice, albeit in between some jokes. I was the first culprit I have to admit. Meanwhile, my wife has raised an issue I was not aware of and that is dust collecting in her tumble dryer which apparently can ignite if not cleaned out regularly. Dangerous things these household white goods - that's why I won't go near them!
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IanDakin		#50 Posted : 11 December 2015 09:30:34(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		Hi You should be OK as long as you don't put your tea urn on top of it. http://forum.iosh.co.uk/...spx?g=posts&t=120327
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jwk		#51 Posted : 11 December 2015 09:40:17(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		Ray, lint accumulation is a significant fire risk in commercial and semi-commercial laundries. At my last place, where they have laundries in residential homes, we had regular filter cleaning schedules for all the tumble dryers. Accumulated lint causes fires every year, though it's not so much of a problem in domestic dryers as they don't usually get the use that commercial machines do, John
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Invictus		#52 Posted : 11 December 2015 09:48:17(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		Ray lint in your dryer is no laughing matter. I make sure my wife cleans it out at least daily.
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Invictus		#53 Posted : 11 December 2015 11:07:21(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		Thank you all who provided sensible advice, the rest are all (a word I am unable to say on this forum) Firesafety Give us a clue what letter does it start with? H&S gets a name because of the inability to laugh at ourselves or situations and when we do our own professionals have a go. I won't say lighten up becuase I got shouted at last time I posted that. This posting has 'spun me right round baby, right round'. I have just completed a risk assessment on the washing machine and the socks are working a buddy system so that they come back out in pairs.
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chris42		#54 Posted : 11 December 2015 11:28:46(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		If this machine is making a noise it should not, it could be an indication that something is wrong and is a pre cursor to a more serious event. If you don't know what is considered acceptable then, the best you can do is try and find out. That would be either machine spec or national spec, so all in all not an unreasonable post. I think if you read FireSafety's own post, the first part is intended to join in the humour. I have had a relative who had a small fire from a faulty washer, I am now reluctant to leave the house with mine going as I know it is old. No I don't sit an watch it, but am around generally. Despite how well I empty pockets ( I turn shirt pockets inside out now), I still find things in the drum that should be there. Could this have happened ? Are you able to localise where the sound is coming from. Chris
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Invictus		#55 Posted : 11 December 2015 11:40:55(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		Not too sure it was meant as humour in the first post! If it had been posted on the Friday ok. Still not a H&S issue under any of the regulations. But I suppose if it bothers someone then they need to deal with it and if posting on here is a way of dealing with all well and good.
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chris42		#56 Posted : 11 December 2015 12:00:30(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		I was referring to #44.
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Invictus		#57 Posted : 11 December 2015 12:02:48(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		Chris42 wrote: I was referring to #44. But the poor dog!
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firesafety101		#58 Posted : 11 December 2015 14:15:08(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		Thank you all for your contributions. Invictus I am unable to even suggest any of the letters as the mods will not be pleased and I would no doubt be run out of town, or at least banned from this forum. The machine had a replacement drum a month or so ago and is now out of guarantee but as we believe this is the same fault as before we have called out the CANDYMAN haha If no one else can I hope the Candyman can. It is interesting to note the criticism of me raising a domestic issue here but if you look back through the threads you will find other domestic safety issues raised. Further and contrary to one poster I do not intend to make a claim against anyone we just want the machine to work as it should do. You may remember my successful claim against my daughter's school on disability discrimination grounds and the fact I did not claim any money, just an improvement in the school practices and procedures. Cheers.
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SP900308		#59 Posted : 11 December 2015 15:50:23(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		jwk wrote: Ray, lint accumulation is a significant fire risk Blimey.... I best quickly implement a PPM schedule for a belly button clear-out!
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jwk		#60 Posted : 11 December 2015 15:51:51(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		Doh!
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firesafety101		#61 Posted : 13 December 2015 12:49:25(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		OK chaps and chapesses I am on report waiting for the mods to pass sentence on Monday. If I don't post again I will have met my fate, just like to say its been nice knowing you all and I have enjoyed reading and contributing to all your threads. I hope I have been helpful. Merry Christmas and a happy and peaceful New Year to you all, including the Mods.
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mssy		#62 Posted : 13 December 2015 16:54:20(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		FireSafety101 wrote: OK chaps and chapesses I am on report waiting for the mods to pass sentence on Monday. If I don't post again I will have met my fate, just like to say its been nice knowing you all and I have enjoyed reading and contributing to all your threads. I hope I have been helpful. Merry Christmas and a happy and peaceful New Year to you all, including the Mods. Blimey Unless I have missed it, I can't see any reason for a ban and would hope that the Mods would apply common sense here. I don't want to be the only gobby ex fire inspecting officer here :) Good luck
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paul.skyrme		#63 Posted : 15 December 2015 18:13:08(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		Well it seems from what I have been told FireSafety101 has been given a 7 day holiday. As per mssy, not sure what for, but, that's nothing to do with me.
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RayRapp		#64 Posted : 15 December 2015 21:38:53(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		I could do with a 7 day break, I wonder if I called someone...never mind Xmas is coming. Firesafety101, when you've chilled out come back - we miss you.
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Invictus		#65 Posted : 16 December 2015 08:15:31(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		Apparently as the mods called me a troll I am not allowed to comment, in case it upsets someone. But Happy Christmas one and all!
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Graham		#66 Posted : 16 December 2015 09:22:47(UTC)
Rank: Forum user		What the hell? A bit of robust to and fro forms part of the slings and arrows of being in Health and Safety. I'm sure everyone here has tougher conversations in the course of their work than appear here. Do the mods not have to deal with difficult customers in the course of their day to day activities? We need to be able to call a spade a spade, without fear of censure surely. Off now for a mod induced break no doubt. Graham
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chris42		#67 Posted : 16 December 2015 09:36:19(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		I think there were some posts pulled, so we don't know what was actually said. I missed their actual content as the Mods were to good. I used to enjoy the old "bun fights" I think they were refereed to, provided they didn't get too personal. Ah the good old days. Hope FireSafety will be back as he only asked a simple question and if we didn't want to answer then there is no law requiring us to.
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chris42		#68 Posted : 16 December 2015 09:41:35(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		That should be "Referred" not Refereed ( though maybe). I wonder if I have waited long enough Nope and nope again and again - what is the actual time we have to wait
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Invictus		#69 Posted : 16 December 2015 09:45:00(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		Chris42 wrote: That should be "Referred" not Refereed ( though maybe). I wonder if I have waited long enough Nope and nope again and again - what is the actual time we have to wait 5 Minutes due to all the spams that we were getting
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Invictus		#70 Posted : 16 December 2015 09:50:35(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		oops hope that wasn't a secret! and don't forget the surprise party for the moderators next week DOH!
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watcher		#71 Posted : 16 December 2015 10:45:20(UTC)
Rank: Forum user		Invictus wrote: Apparently as the mods called me a troll I am not allowed to comment, in case it upsets someone. But Happy Christmas one and all! Why on earth would they call you a troll? We need more posters like you who call out the BS spouted by some posters. Personal insults say more about the poster than the target of their comments. Although I kNOW I'm a "smart ass" :-)
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Invictus		#72 Posted : 16 December 2015 11:05:05(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		FireSafety101 wrote: OK chaps and chapesses I am on report waiting for the mods to pass sentence on Monday. If I don't post again I will have met my fate, just like to say its been nice knowing you all and I have enjoyed reading and contributing to all your threads. I hope I have been helpful. Merry Christmas and a happy and peaceful New Year to you all, including the Mods. I do not believe that anyone would have been upset by my response to this particular post.
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