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I've just taken over at a construction co who's TBTs need improving.
My thoughts are to issue the gangs with a weekly one page tick sheet hard copy TBT (taken from CITB GT700) and attach it to their wage slip. They read it, tick it & hand it back to their foreman, who hands them back to me. I log/file them ...... simple!??
Any thoughts or other alternative ideas please?
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That all looks a bit lazy to me. If you think that is an improvement on what was before I really can't think what was done before :o)
No offence intended I'm just advising based on my experience with construction teams and H&S.
You really need to know how effective your toolbox talks are. A tick in a box tells you nothing.
I do toolbox talks face-to-face, to encourage discussion and allow any issues on the subject to be raised. Any discussion is recorded with a record of the attendance.
The guys get feedback where appropriate and any upcoming site inspections will particularly look to confirm they are complying with the training they just had.
John
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Personally, I wouldn't go for this method, the guys will get p'ed off at this 'thing' attached to their wages, and probably not fill it, or forget it.
Also, TBT's are a great time to engage with the workforce, you can carry out the TBT whereby they will retain some of the information on that specific topic.
A lot of construction companies not have daily briefings first thing in the morning, this will include a TBT, review of RAMs and a quick chat of whats going on for the day.
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Agree with Lawlee
I give all our managers their own copy of GT700, and supplement this with safety alerts or other instructions based on recent events on our sites or elsewhere. These often include instructions to run a TBT with relevant workers, and some pointers for what it should contain.
The personal contact with whoever runs the TBT is essential. Asking good questions of the group (which often is the majority of the TBT), and creating an atmosphere where they also question and volunteer info is a hard task if your people or company is not used to this, but incredibly worthwhile for improving in all areas - good luck.
(my situation also has a long way to go even though we've changed a lot since 2014, in no way am I saying the above is the "right" way!).
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A TBT is a form of learning. You cannot be teaching anything just by asking people to fill in a tick box proforma. You might just as well have the question "are you going to be safe YES or NO? " and leave it at that. The secret of successful H&s is engagement not ticking off KPIs.
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TBTs just another form of mindless h&s dogma to satisfy auditors and management that h&s management and engagement is 'effective'.
In my experience better for team leaders/charge hands to give a good pre-job brief about the expected work activities to be undertaken and associated hazards/risks.
TBTs are a major turn off in my experience.
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Ian,
There are some workplaces where H&S training/toolbox talks delivered by team leaders are not effective; the lads are just too familiar with their foreman or boss, and sometimes the foreman won't listen to concerns because he knows he will be the one expected to fix it.
In my experience, particularly in construction, H&S talks are much better received when delivered by a good H&S person. He knows the subject, and is able to apply the talk to the specific job and environment, and will get the respect from lads.
A good H&S person will welcome and get feedback because the lads know he will listen and give their concerns appropriate consideration.
He will keep records, he will take action, he will delegate where appropriate and will check progress.
John
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Many thanks for the comments and advice. There is some excellent tips here that I will definitely use.
Please keep them coming!
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I think the answer is in the post title 'tool box talks' not 'tool box tick sheet'.
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