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quants  
#1 Posted : 09 February 2016 21:43:28(UTC)
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quants

Hello all I am just about to do my final NEBOSH exam that will give me a National General Certificate in Occupational Health and Safety, being a new to the industry I could really do with some guidance from you all?? I work for a small fuel company that supplies Gas, Wood, Coal etc.. to local households and business, once I am qualified I will be taking on the role of health and safety manager for the company. The business has been established for many years and has never really had health and safety as a priority, generally things are not that bad as the staff are pretty competent and sensible but from a legal and compliance perspective there are issues to deal with. The problem I face is having to build a complete health and safety system from scratch as the current set up is just not good enough, I cant see this as being a huge issue except I am worried I may miss something important. does anybody know of a check list that will help me get this done without missing and important parts?? any other advice is always welcome regards Quants
RayRapp  
#2 Posted : 10 February 2016 08:45:29(UTC)
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RayRapp

Sounds like an interesting and somewhat challenging task. If you embrace this task I think it will be a good learning exercise for you. Not knowing what policies and practices which already exist, I would start by making a list of all the industry specific Acts and Regulations which apply to your business. For example, MHSWR, PPER, PUWER, LOLER, RTA, etc. Then tease out the specific sections within those regulations to form your own checklist. There may be someting on Google which will either do the same or assist you - good luck. Starter for 10 below. http://www.hse.gov.uk/le...tion/statinstruments.htm
JayPownall  
#3 Posted : 10 February 2016 08:53:11(UTC)
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JayPownall

IOSH produced a helpful guide called 'Systems in Focus' - it goes through the major safety systems businesses use and can give you a heads up as how best to go about both choosing a good system and how best to implement. Given you say your a small'ish business some of the systems outlined might be a little OTT, but its worth a look if not just from a CPD perspective! http://www.iosh.co.uk/~/...Systems%20in%20focus.pdf As RayRapp says, a simple list of the regs which your work falls under would be a good start in order to populate a checklist. Good luck!
WatsonD  
#4 Posted : 10 February 2016 09:10:17(UTC)
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WatsonD

It may well be worth you looking over HSG65 on HSE website: http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/books/hsg65.htm or http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/indg275.htm to get you started. These are very helpful and based on the management of Health & Safety at Work regs, which are more prescriptive about how employers need to manage H&S in their workplace.
Andrew W Walker  
#5 Posted : 10 February 2016 09:16:47(UTC)
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Andrew W Walker

Quants I see that your company supplies gas- if you haven't already done so, you may need to look at the carriage of dangerous goods regulations. http://www.legislation.g.../2009/1348/made/data.pdf Good luck and have fun! Andy
bob youel  
#6 Posted : 10 February 2016 09:20:31(UTC)
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bob youel

Best of luck and things, if done properly, are not 2 complicated or as deep as U may think nor as the various management systems that are on sale have U believe After spending >50 years at work, inclusive of many court cases, I would say that keeping things as logical and as simple as possible whilst being suitable and sufficient is best setting small but achieveavble goals as U go e.g. I created/had a management system for large & very diverse organisations working in many sectors that had 2 [yep only 2] primary pages only, all of which was audited & accepted by the HSE and stood up in court on a number of occasions without paying fees to ISO type organisations Get involved with your local IOSH branch and I am sure that U will gain suitable contacts that would be able to advise and help
sadlass  
#7 Posted : 10 February 2016 13:35:05(UTC)
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sadlass

My tips: Be aware of overload - there is a lot to look at - but much can be read up on later as you refine systems. Clarify first what it will look like when it's finished: A comprehensive large manual or collection of everything? (not advised) An intranet based selective for single topic guidance for managers? (small companies may not have this) Guidance by topic? Guidance by area / activity? Guidance segregated for managers, employees, or all together? It wont be perfect straight off – that’s fine, keep revising / reviewing with consultation and feedback (your monitoring role). Keep it as simple as possible. My absolute tip is to look at the HSE 'Farmwise'. This is a 74 page template of really good design, structure and relevant (to farms!) content, but if you were to follow this pattern you won't go far wrong. Remember – you don’t own the safety system or policy – you draft it for the organisation to take on.
quants  
#8 Posted : 11 February 2016 18:51:58(UTC)
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quants

Thank you so much guys, I feel a little less daunted about the prospect now. I try and past updates on the forum every so often if I can..
Jimothy999  
#9 Posted : 12 February 2016 08:46:17(UTC)
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Jimothy999

Sadlass's last point is a very important one to keep I mind. I was in a similar situation to you a while back and made the mistake of trying to write, own and run the whole management system. The result was that if it had safety written at the top it was assumed to be my problem to sort. It took a gentle point raised at the company board meeting to sort it out in the end and push ownership of safety onto the line managers where it belongs. Good luck with it and feel free to drop any questions on here. I've found this board one of the most valuable resources at my disposal.
A Kurdziel  
#10 Posted : 12 February 2016 21:26:34(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

Forget systems and stuff (for now) Look at goals: your company has decided that H&S is important enough for them to get you trained up as a manager-good. What do they expect a healthy and safe business to look like? The answer might be one with fewer accidents, so you could start looking at the sort of accidents you have been having? Is there any common thread? perhaps a lack of training or poor supervision? So what do you need to do to deal with this and prevent this sort of accident from reoccurring ie what systems (you can’t really get away from them) need to be in place. You could look at how staff are supervised. Is their enough emphasis on safe processes? Do people wear PPE? If not, why not? Work your way back from what you want as an outcome and find out what is preventing that outcome. You now the beginnings of strategy and a plan which you can show to your management and hopefully get their support for it. Build up like this and you will eventually have system which will comply with things like HSG65 or even OHSAS 180001.
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