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I have an issue with a supervisor regarding ppe. We have a worker who needs protective footwear and we allow £30 per pair - if the individual wants dearer shoes he pays the extra.The individual has a foot infection and says he needs dearer shoes - should we pay the extra? should he pay, as the supervisor wants? - should we use occupational health? iTS NOT MY BUDGET SO i CANT SAY BUY THEM. The shoes we buy are to the required standards however as I say its not my shout.
My thoughts are buy the shoes and insist the user stores them at work everyday in a good condition
Any thoughts
SBH
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Why does he need dearer shoes will this help the foot infection, ask for a doctors note. Did the boots cause the problem in the first place?
Tell him he gets £30 and if he wants a dearer pair to put put the rest to it unless he can prove the boots were the cause.
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I've had the same problem.
As Invictus has said- get a doctors note. When I asked for one it went very quiet...
Andy
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Morning,
You cannot set arbitrary limits on what you will pay for PPE. It must be suitable, and one of the factors to consider for suitability is the person (see the guidance to the PPE regs). By all means ask for evidence that the worker has a foot infection that means they need special boots; if this is produced then you have to buy special boots.
As you say SBH, it's not your budget,
John
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£30! That's more than most places spend!
I got this a lot, its amazing how many people had to have DM's because of some problem or another or because that what their Dr said they should have!
Oc Health or Drs note as mentioned is the way forward. If its a foot infection this is normally due to sweating too much in the old boot however it would have to be proven that is was caused by the safety footwear and not developed outside of work etc
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My copy of the PPE regs does not mention a limit on financial outlay as a factor to consider.
As JWK says.
I don't see how companies are allowed to get away with charging anything for PPE, even if an item is over their 'made-up' arbitrary budget limit. Why do safety practitioners think that's OK?
Also, companies use the listed price point, and then charge staff the extra, BUT don't deduct the VAT element, which they will reclaim themselves.
I have worked for a refuse collection service who specified boots nearly 3 figures - no expense spared for comfortable, supportive, waterproof, breathable, non-slip toe-tectors. These are essential tools for the job. Cheaper ones just don't do all the above, and create problems.
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Sadlass,
In my experience most companies do not generally set maximum costs for PPE as a penny pinching exercise.
It is done in an attempt to limit the amount of lame excuses and reasons why employee X needs a pair of Carlos Fandango boots totally above and beyond what is reasonable in the environment they are intended for.
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In my experience companies set a limit for a standard pair of boots. If employees would like a more expensive pair because they look better, then they would contribute the value of the standard pair towards with the employee paying the extra.
However, if there was a genuine medical reason then an employer would pay the extra.
I see that as no different to a standard hard hat, monitor or any other work item.
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If the boots are plastic or some other man-made material the employee might need something better ie leather. I know from painful experience wearing cheap shoes for a couple of days will wreck my feet.
PPE must be fit for purpose based on a risk assessment, regardless of cost. Sensible budgeting requires value for money, but if PPE is causing (or contributing to) ill health it makes sense to get something more appropriate.
If you only prevent a couple of days sick leave the boots have paid for themselves.
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Asking an employee to contribute to their PPE has a financial implication when you go to claim VAT back.
Effectively you are claiming back monies you have not paid and would be considered to be acting fraudulently.
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