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Zanshin67  
#1 Posted : 01 April 2016 20:45:13(UTC)
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Zanshin67

Dear all does anyone have any information relating to route round risk assessments? a procedure to view and/or associated documents would be really helpful many thanks in advance
bob youel  
#2 Posted : 03 April 2016 10:57:54(UTC)
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bob youel

This area is more complicated than construction as are many work areas. My advice is to get out with the people who do the work as being there and involving people is the best thing & U get to know the game noting that a route in a town in summer is completely different to a country round in winter etc. etc. The public & car drivers are a big problem e.g. 2 of my investigations involved staff [3 in total - 2 different events] being knocked down on the pavement [yep pavement] where the driver had driven onto the pavement to get round the waste lorry! - other areas include; *the amount of agency staff used hence inductions & competence suffer *bullying by management *staff have little time to complete rounds *inclement weather/ poor car driver vision *hazardous substances in bins *going to the toilet against a tree etc. *dogs *exclusion and the usual to include; manual handling, PPE etc.
aud  
#3 Posted : 03 April 2016 19:49:40(UTC)
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aud

Google search very first page brings up HSE / WISH guidance Waste24, see Appendix 1 especially. I know there is also a document out there showing an example street map, for the route, marked out with specific hazard points. A very practical solution. The WISH forum have produced (hosted by HSE) a rake of guidance relating to refuse collection H&S, and there is also LAWS (Local authority waste safety?) - can be hard to find but the chair was in Aylesbury Council, and there is a thread from 2011 on reversing generally in which LAWS gets a mention (David Thomas).
Alfasev  
#4 Posted : 04 April 2016 11:28:19(UTC)
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Alfasev

bob youel wrote:
This area is more complicated than construction as are many work areas.
Bit of a general statement what about Crossrail, HS2, Thames Tideway Tunnel, Hinkley Point etc.
bob youel  
#5 Posted : 04 April 2016 15:43:14(UTC)
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bob youel

Colleagues re my comment ".....more complicated than construction....." I believe that CDM areas have been blown out of propotion with regards to how complicated & risky they are compaired to other work areas e.g. many bin men have been hit by car's & even run over by their own vehicles yet such events are not reported under RIDDOR! I have worked in most very large /similar projects [try the north sea in the very early seventies where HSWA 74 was only a pipe dream] and some benefits that they all had is that the general public are not interacting with workers & elected members are not involved + sites are secure with a captive audience & toilets etc. are usually present + the men know that they have more than one (1) days work as many bin men are hired & fired in the same day [or they were 2 years ago when I was involved in this area]! I am not taking anything away from other areas I am just saying that many jobs are more risky than people think irrespective of what the HSE says and to get to know the job is the best way of trying to manage H&S in any job best of luck
Mr.Flibble2.0  
#6 Posted : 05 April 2016 10:43:14(UTC)
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Mr.Flibble2.0

Hi We route ride and take photos of any particular hazards and recommendations to avoid. The photos and info are then put into a word document with the route number on and then displayed on a Route Hazard board, given to the drivers and put into a route hazard book.
Corfield35303  
#7 Posted : 06 April 2016 15:24:33(UTC)
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Corfield35303

We've used photo's, maps and even video to do route risk assessments, getting a graphical overlay of where incidents actually happen is also a useful tool. We also sometimes display current/on-going route risks in driver restrooms on TV screens. Route familiarisation is the 'trick' to getting it right, difficult in some circumstances though.
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