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Does anyone think cleaning a commercial kitchen (ovens, deep fat fryers, wiping down the outside of fridges etc) is construction work and therefore covered by CDM? I'm hoping not.
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Not construction work and not on a structure - Not CDM
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No.
Not in any way could wiping down a fridge be construed as 'construction related maintenance'.
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Curious to know how this even came up as a possibility.
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sadlass wrote:Curious to know how this even came up as a possibility. Washing of walls including Glass???????:-)
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Sounds like normal kitchen work to me.
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Hi sadlas. This arose following an application to CHAS that was rejected because the CHAS Auditor required CDM to be included in the assessment as under CDM, Construction Work includes cleaning. I am arguing that this is not the case. However, it seems far from clear cut. Another angle may be that CDM is only enforced by the HSE, and it is EHOs that enforce the law in commercial kitchens.
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CDM Reg 2: Definition of construction includes . . . "cleaning which involves the use of water or an abrasive at high pressure, or the use of corrosive or toxic substances ... of a structure;"
CDM does not apply to any old cleaning, anywhere and everywhere - that would be silly. I would definitely question this with CHAS.
Of course, design must consider ongoing cleaning to be done without risk. (eg windows at height etc).
CDM (as construction) was always enforced by HSE, not EHOs.
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This is where the real problems of these schemes start to show. The is a real dearth of construction competent people within the profession who are also competent to audit such documents. They are also tied to a very rigid checklist. These combine to produce some very odd requirements
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Whilst I think this would be madness if it was included in the regs, it is not completely clear-cut:
Firstly, as sadlass post #8 states CDM reg 2 does include types of cleaning.
Also in Reg 2 a "structure" can mean - "...fixed plant"
So this could potentially be interpreted as such that it would need to be covered by CDM. That's the trouble with CDM being written at speed on the back of a beer mat.
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This is a common misinterpretation of the regulations. Cleaning a commercial kitchen is not construction work and does not come under the CDM regulations.
For CDM to apply it must firstly be building, civil engineering or engineering works, only if the works fall into one of these categories do you consider (a) to (e).
Therefore although cleaning is mentioned in (a) to (e) as cleaning a commercial kitchen is clearly not construction work and (a) to (e) does not apply.
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