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Russ1977  
#1 Posted : 19 April 2016 14:40:54(UTC)
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Russ1977

Is it generally accepted that there are 3 main types of PEEP 1) A two stage evac (person may be slow or unsteady using steady but is able to do so without assistance) So in essence they wait until the area is clear before making their own way out 2) Assisted evac, no equipment (person may simply need someone to provide a steady are as they use the stairs) 3) Assisted evac with equipment (such as evac chair)
jwk  
#2 Posted : 19 April 2016 15:37:33(UTC)
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jwk

Hi Russ, It depends. In a hospice (for example) a PEEP may well say 'no evacuation', as untoward movement may bring about death as surely as a fire. The same could apply in ITU. For me the point of PEEP is that it is personal; your question could be rephrased 'are there three types of person needing help in an emergency?'. To me the answer is no, there are very many, John
Russ1977  
#3 Posted : 19 April 2016 15:45:15(UTC)
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Russ1977

thanks JWK, much appreciated.
biker1  
#4 Posted : 19 April 2016 17:00:27(UTC)
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biker1

I agree with the response from jwk, there are many conditions affecting mobility, many ways in which they do, and no two person's conditions will be the same. Many neurological conditions, for instance, vary in their extent, both between individuals and on a day to day basis for any individual. An assessment of this for a PEEP will need to look at the worst case scenario (how bad their mobility could be on a bad day). If it's not that bad on a particular day, that's a bonus, but only the individual will know that. As said, a PEEP is a specific assessment for a specific individual, so trying to generalise could result in crucial factors being missed.
Invictus  
#5 Posted : 20 April 2016 07:43:00(UTC)
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Invictus

You could look at the document 'Means of escape for disabled people' it also considers people with other disabilities not just mobility problems.
stevedm  
#6 Posted : 20 April 2016 07:55:19(UTC)
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stevedm

Russ not sure what you are trying to say but inv is right first port of call is here.. https://www.gov.uk/gover..._Means_of_Escape_v2_.pdf If you are trying to group the PEEP information with 1 being generally mobile people with little or no assistance and no obvious health risks and grouping the remaining into 2/3 just compare it to the information here and see if it fits..
ptaylor14  
#7 Posted : 20 April 2016 14:52:08(UTC)
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ptaylor14

jwk wrote:
Hi Russ, It depends. In a hospice (for example) a PEEP may well say 'no evacuation', as untoward movement may bring about death as surely as a fire. The same could apply in ITU. For me the point of PEEP is that it is personal; your question could be rephrased 'are there three types of person needing help in an emergency?'. To me the answer is no, there are very many, John
I agree
firesafety101  
#8 Posted : 20 April 2016 17:46:48(UTC)
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firesafety101

I disagree. There is only one type of PEEP and that is a PEEP. If you start out having only three types you are placing those three into a box and selecting from inside. You need to be thinking outside the box and with an open mind. PEEPS are for individuals and whatever their condition/disability everyone should be looked at on their own merits. Don't forget to involve the individual when writing up the PEEP.
edblanchard  
#9 Posted : 20 April 2016 18:09:12(UTC)
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edblanchard

Surely much depends upon the type of premises. In healthcare premises horizontal evacuation to a place of safety, e.g. a neighbouring ward in a "different compartment" is usually the first option. The same criteria usually also applies in social care residential homes. A Personal Emergency Evacuation Plan (PEEP) applies where a person, e.g. an employee, will require assistance in the event of an emergency due to his/her physical condition and sometimes mental condition - consider patients in a psychiatric hospital. We also need to consider the emergency evacuation of a shopping precinct or place of assembly such as a sports venue or theatre etc. There will be some persons who will need assistance in such circumstances - many of whom will be unknown to the management. I believe there is something known as "GEEP" or Generic Emergency Evacuation Plan. I have no experience of GEEPs and wonder whether somebody might have knowledge please.
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