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SBH  
#1 Posted : 10 May 2016 15:16:11(UTC)
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SBH

Anyone any idea what the maximum amount of medical gas cylinders can be transported in a car - not for personal use. I know they should not be carried but I am just trying to locate this info SBH
MEden380  
#2 Posted : 10 May 2016 15:42:33(UTC)
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MEden380

SBH Depends on what type of gas you are transporting as they fall in to different categories. More flammable the less you can carry. HSE website is a good source if information so is the British Compressed Gas Association. Not a good idea to carry gases used as anaesthetics in a closed vehicle even in the boot, however small the cyclinder
Ron Hunter  
#3 Posted : 10 May 2016 16:42:55(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

Even the smallest of Entonox cylinders (1 litre water capacity) has something like 350 litres of gas at 217 bar. Not worth the risk. Leave that sort of thing to the Fast and Furious.
gerrysharpe  
#4 Posted : 10 May 2016 16:46:28(UTC)
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gerrysharpe

You will also need to inform your Insurance Company and attached the appropriate signage to your car By medical gas i presume you mean Oxygen ?? If its a Flammable Gas your Insurance may not be valid if your using just private insurance, as you have not for personal use then your using it as part of your Business ? and if your using it for someone else are you trained in its administration? Are you renting or buying the bottles, if renting then you need to ensure that its in the agreement that you can simply drive around with this gas in your car. Its not as easy as chucking it into the boot and driving round, if your involved in an accident you could be adding to the hazard. Just bear this in mind
Ron Hunter  
#5 Posted : 10 May 2016 16:47:54(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

And woe betide your organisation's reputation of that cylinder is stolen from your vehicle! Entonox is a number 1 target for theft. I should have added that there's a wealth of info. and pdf downloads on BOC Medical Gases web pages.
gerrysharpe  
#6 Posted : 10 May 2016 17:02:06(UTC)
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gerrysharpe

Ron Hunter wrote:
And woe betide your organisation's reputation of that cylinder is stolen from your vehicle! Entonox is a number 1 target for theft. I should have added that there's a wealth of info. and pdf downloads on BOC Medical Gases web pages.
Your not wrong there Ron, It may be worth your while to read this "Guidance on the security and storage of medical gas cylinders" you can download it here http://www.nhsbsa.nhs.uk..._gas_cylinders_Aug14.pdf Hope that Helps and Check out your Insurance as you'll need to know if your covered.
stevedm  
#7 Posted : 10 May 2016 20:45:46(UTC)
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stevedm

If you are carrying single o2 or single entonox as part of a response pack then it is not covered by ADR or anything like that. The BCGA and BOC advice is good by just beware sticking a little green sticker on your car will do two things 1 attract the wrong attention 2 get it made into a convertible if involved in an accident. There is no legal requirement.
gerrysharpe  
#8 Posted : 10 May 2016 23:48:35(UTC)
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gerrysharpe

Another useful source of Info his here www.bcga.co.uk/pages/dow...m?document_name=GN27.pdf
HeO2  
#9 Posted : 11 May 2016 18:15:11(UTC)
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HeO2

What SteveDM said! No green sticker required. Entonox not a controlled drug, only a prescription only medicine (like oxygen) so like getting a packet of anti biotics nicked off the front seat of your car, so not the end of the world reputation wise for a Company. neither of the 2 most common carried medical gasses are flammable. support combustion, yes flammable, no. Entonox (BOC'S trade name) is 50% nitrous oxide, and 50% oxygen. If a cylinder has 1 litre water capacity, and is pressurised to 217 bar, it yields 217 litres of gas, irrespective of contents. Cheers Phil
Ron Hunter  
#10 Posted : 11 May 2016 21:08:25(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

HeO2 wrote:
If a cylinder has 1 litre water capacity, and is pressurised to 217 bar, it yields 217 litres of gas, irrespective of contents. Cheers Phil
The good folks at BOC medical gases seem to disagree with you there............
Cadence  
#11 Posted : 28 March 2017 03:33:17(UTC)
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Cadence

Anyone has experience with both 7 Bar and 11 Bar Medical gas system?

Is there a trend towards higher pressure 11Bar ? a few drill bits claim to be running up to 11bar

What about electric drill replacing air ?

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