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Wright-Reid29277  
#1 Posted : 23 May 2016 16:24:30(UTC)
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Wright-Reid29277

Other than for a school or other educational establishment, has anyone carried out a drill of a procedure to respond to an active shooter type event,
or is anyone planning to do so
or does anyone know of a firm that has carried out such a drill?
Michele  
#2 Posted : 23 May 2016 22:39:04(UTC)
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Michele

Evening
I personally have not done this type of drill, but I have done planning, drills etc for Bomb, animal rights etc

What is the aim of this drill, in the sense of staff training or planning?

A few more details my help, PM if you want.

mssy  
#3 Posted : 24 May 2016 09:36:01(UTC)
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mssy

I have had some experience developing & exercising such a system, but not in an education setting which of course, brings huge specific difficulties. As a result, I do not feel qualified to help in any tangible way with your enquiry.

However, I did some research when setting up our plans and found the following sites useful.

The UK Govt have some advice here:

https://www.gov.uk/gover...ynamic_Lockdown_v1_0.pdf

The National Counter Terrorism Security Office have further advice here:

https://www.gov.uk/gover...errorism-security-office

Bizarrely, some Schools provide details of their lockdown arrangements on their websites. OK, this may be reassuring to anxious parents, but perhaps a step to far in openness & transparency !!

http://www.thornhill-primary.co.uk/page/?pid=53

Your local Counter Terrorism Security Advisor (CTSA) maybe able to point you in the right direction, albeit their brief is not necessarily Schools.

More about CTSAs http://content.met.polic...0006571857/1400006571857

Wright-Reid29277  
#4 Posted : 24 May 2016 09:42:11(UTC)
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Wright-Reid29277

Just to be clear.
We have a procedure which is based on the NACTSO dynamic lockdown guidance and our existing assessments from security engineers and counter terrorism advisers.
Our local CTSAs have offered to augment our observers during the drill.

My question is simply whether anyone else (outside of education) has carried out a lockdown drill.

Many thanks

David Thomas  
#5 Posted : 25 May 2016 22:37:45(UTC)
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David Thomas

Contact your local police..... Also all category 1 responders are active in this area
Graham Bullough  
#6 Posted : 26 May 2016 20:14:00(UTC)
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Graham Bullough

Wright-Reid

In connection with your original 3rd question, I know that Greater Manchester Police (GMP) held an anti-terrorist response training exercise earlier this month at The Trafford (shopping) Centre in the Manchester area. According to subsequent media publicity, it involved at least one mock gunman, so it's quite possible that the centre operator and tenants, i.e. numerous retail outlets, practiced dynamic lockdown procedures. However, I don't know of any contacts for them.

On a slightly related note, a H&S adviser with GMP gave an interesting presentation earlier this year about H&S issues regarding firearms training at a meeting of the Public Services Section of IOSH Manchester Branch. If I heard him correctly, increasing numbers of police officers throughout the UK have been/are being trained to use firearms so as to be able to provide a good degree of responsiveness to the increased threat of terrorism.

Also, active shooter event' is surely a particularly American expression for the multiple shooting type incidents which, sadly, occur too often in the USA and are usually perpetrated by deranged individuals who are motivated by personal grudges and don't really come within the category of 'terrorist'. The existence of gun shops in the USA and the ease with which adults can apparently walk into them and buy guns and ammunition seems totally abhorrent to us in the UK. It's also appalling to see fairly regular media reports of instances in the USA where adults or children have died or been seriously injured through children, including very young ones, finding and playing with loaded guns, usually ones owned by their parents.

Graham B
David Bannister  
#7 Posted : 27 May 2016 09:06:31(UTC)
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David Bannister

The recent appalling mass-murders in Paris, Brussels, Norway etc and also here in UK (Cumbria) indicate that a scenario where either individuals or groups of murderers are on the rampage is not far-fetched.

Our police & emergency services plan their strategy and our security services are active in prevention but (sadly) employers with large numbers of personnel to think about perhaps now need to be considering their own strategies. It is not good enough to hope that it won't happen - recent history shows that the probability is higher than previously thought.

I applaud the OP for wanting to know more and asking the question.
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