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StevieH  
#1 Posted : 08 June 2016 21:59:22(UTC)
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StevieH

This is a problem throughout network, Toyota PPT loaded with 3 cages leaves little room for error in terms of space at end of forks. Three cages on forks probably only leaves few inches clearance at end of forks, slightest contact, harsh breaking, jerking movement etc will have a cage over coupled with non cautious driver.

Is there any engineering solutions out there for this, or realistically shall PPT movement of cages only really suited to 2 cages per move? I don't want to invent something if there is something on the market already, a quick one pull strap release, a clamp, rubber fork sleeves, bracket etc?

Any thoughts suggestions, advice welcome, we have challenged behaviours on this, however still through our network and warehouses this still a problem.
Thanks, Steve
SNS  
#2 Posted : 08 June 2016 23:38:45(UTC)
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SNS

What is PPT?

Thanks
Roundtuit  
#3 Posted : 09 June 2016 10:01:13(UTC)
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Roundtuit

StevieH

you do not indicate what dimesions and load the cages being moved by your Powered Pallet Truck are so it is a little hard to second guess a solution

have you spoken with the supplier?

It could be as simple as sticking a durable foam strip along the forks to prevent metal sliding on metal
Roundtuit  
#4 Posted : 09 June 2016 10:01:13(UTC)
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Roundtuit

StevieH

you do not indicate what dimesions and load the cages being moved by your Powered Pallet Truck are so it is a little hard to second guess a solution

have you spoken with the supplier?

It could be as simple as sticking a durable foam strip along the forks to prevent metal sliding on metal
Safety Smurf  
#5 Posted : 09 June 2016 10:04:36(UTC)
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Safety Smurf

Powered Pallet Truck. although if it's got forks long enough to pick up three cages it sound like something people might better know as a LLOP (Low Level Order Picker).

I'm guessing from the description of the issue that these are rider operated. This is quite common practice in distribution centres dispatching goods in roll cages however the nature of the goods can make all the difference to the stability of the load so just copying common practice isn't always going to work.
Safety Smurf  
#6 Posted : 09 June 2016 15:42:15(UTC)
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Safety Smurf

StevieH,

There's a clue in there that tells me you're not in one of my DC's but I wonder are using or are you in fact a 3rd party logistics provider? If so, it might be worth finding out how other sites do deal with it?
solidpine  
#7 Posted : 09 June 2016 16:14:17(UTC)
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solidpine

I would be very interested to see some form of magnetic fork/attachment in the industry.
SensibleSafety  
#8 Posted : 09 June 2016 21:08:51(UTC)
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SensibleSafety

Roll cages and LLOP's are an identified risk in many warehouse settings indeed.
We have strong training and SSoW's in place regarding using both. Good layout is important to ensure pedestrians don't get struck. There are many risks.

That being said, lifting the cages (number determined by suitability of mhe and fork size etc) off the ground an inch and ensuring competent operators including good PVI segregation and layout and good conditions of surface and lighting and ensuring mhe is travelling in the proper direction should control the risk of coupled trailers.
It's worth mentioning as well that the dock levellers are at times not suitable for the LLOP's to enter due to being too steep so ensuring operators check the dock leveller is level with the ground while carrying out the trailer checks would identify any issues that need correcting before loading/unloading commences.

If the dock leveller is not flat to the ground and is raised or damaged you can get the cage wheels coming loose or breaking off which lead to the dreaded 3 wheel cage situation and the injuries that they can cause.

Just some thoughts.
Mr.Flibble2.0  
#9 Posted : 10 June 2016 14:47:25(UTC)
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Mr.Flibble2.0

Expensive solution: Have the truck modified with a cage on the outside which the roll cages slide into.


Cheap solution: Use straps (vehicle straps tend to work just fine) although if they drive like nutters and take corners to sharp they will still go over but it does tend to stop them losing the one off the back.
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