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Psycho  
#1 Posted : 28 June 2016 12:43:42(UTC)
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Ian Bell2  
#2 Posted : 28 June 2016 12:57:37(UTC)
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Ian Bell2

Once again we see a so called ex fire fighter jumping on the bandwagon of FRAs.

Given his age, probably was riding the pumps at the very best over 20yrs ago.

I've said it before, too many people/organisations rely on the so called credibility of being an ex fire man.

It a bit like saying a car tyre fitter is competent to fully design a car.
There are different levels of competence despite working in a particular discipline.
mssy  
#3 Posted : 28 June 2016 19:42:20(UTC)
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mssy

The firefighter has been found guilty, and it does appear that he was out of his depth.

My view is that anyone who can read and write could manage a low risk and very simple FRA if they study the guidance. An ex FF may have a slight edge (or may not).

But this was a care home for God's sake. There are few types of occupancies that are higher risk out there, and only a fool would take a FRA on unless they were 101% competent.

Lets not forget, in this case, the care home managers ignored a notice of deficiencies issued by the fire service. OK, these notices are not included or part of the Fire Safety Order, but they are an evidential official communication between the enforcers & RP. As this case, ignore them at your peril

This is another example of a RP ignoring the enforcement authority who gave them lots of time to even attempt to put things right.

A well deserved fine & sentence
firesafety101  
#4 Posted : 28 June 2016 20:10:33(UTC)
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firesafety101

Messy is right and if the RP had acted to rectify all requirements the fire risk assesser would have got away with it.

Ali Sooltan  
#5 Posted : 30 June 2016 16:00:01(UTC)
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Ali Sooltan

Fighting fires is one thing, but measuring the risk of fire in premises containing vulnerable people is another thing.
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