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Stuie A little while ago you noted that the Manageging safely course was going to have the Environmental part cut. Has this happened and is there a cut off date, where all trainers need to comply with the new format? Is the new format still cartoon based ? I hope to have another and last battle of wills with the directors next week. Chris

Thanks No they don't want me to run the course ( I offered) or them to do the course at all, as it takes them away from work for 4 days ! I was going to suggest an online IOSH Managing Safely Course so they can do it when they have any free time. The MD doesn't think it necessary, despite the HSE pointing it our 5/6 years ago before my time. Despite me pointing out the amount of time that will be lost due to an incident. So one last go at taking away some of his problem with time. But I know when it is time to stop flogging the dead horse! And go and do something I can make a difference with. Thanks Chris

Thanks Nige Sadly I suspect that. He has been on a Directing safely course in the past apparently. Sadly what comes out of some peoples mouths and into other peoples brains is not necessarily the same. So he seems to have a twisted old fashioned view of H&S. My advice is in writing for what good that is (so was the HSE's -but no follow up it seems). That particular horse is well and truly dead and turned into glue. He let me say my piece and stared at his mobile phone the whole time, everyone else sat in silence. All I can do is pray for a HSE visit (not due to an accident please) and they pick it up again. Unless I can think of some other selling point /benefit. I have been wondering about planting a seed in the heads of the managers. So they decide they need some sort of training in H&S. At the moment I think they believe that if they have had no training they can not be held responsible (company has not provided the means to do their job properly). Ho hum Chris

Whatever the colour of grass it may be better than the mud I'm presently in (at least I hope its just mud!) :0) Just at the moment it suits my purpose to stay where I am. I think despite a few closed doors on certain subjects, I can still make a difference in other areas. That way if I do move on the next person has less of a hill to climb. You never know the next person (which would be 5 in seven years) may get listened to. The main problem seems to be time opposed to money. Resources are cut to the bone, so no spare time for niceties like training. Of course he could be run over by the proverbial red bus tomorrow! 9 by this I mean life and circumstances change. Sometimes though it does not help that training courses are padded to make them seem value for money.

Hi Chris, take a look at this short video. No mention of dropping the Enviro module. Maybe i dreamt that bit? Stu