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andrewjb1  
#1 Posted : 08 July 2016 09:57:43(UTC)
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andrewjb1

Hi

We are merging two School science labs together and we have a small amount of laboratory chemicals to transport from one School to another, just small quantities of dry powders such as carbon powders but also small quantities of Sulphuric acids, iodine, nitric acids, ammonia etc.

Literally they are being moved 400 yards down the road, what are the transport requirements and would we require a specialist courier?

Andrew
peterL  
#2 Posted : 08 July 2016 11:00:26(UTC)
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peterL

Hi,

Always a tricky one, I suggest you get the teacher with knowledge to package the items/chemicals together, those that do not present a risk of reacting with each other and ensure these are packeged in suitable leak proof containers for carriage, and of course identify all of this in a risk assessment for the work task involved (transporting the small quantities of chemicals) and then transport in low quantities/volumes, each journey using an appropriate ventilated vehicle.

To use external providers might prove an expensive route to go down otherwise, but one you still may prefer - just my suggestion.

Pete
elburt  
#3 Posted : 08 July 2016 11:14:11(UTC)
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elburt

Hi do you have access to CLEAPPS the Science and tech experts? they have a free publication:
G14 Designing and Planning Laboratories that gives some ideas about moving chemicals. Basically it says get your technicians to help as they know the chemicals etc. If you are moving chemicals ensure the manual handling arrangements are assessed use of trolleys etc . transport is suitable containers, make sure you keep the flammable, corrosive etc separate just writing this and saw PeterL so he says the other stuff.
If it is transported in small amount there shouldn't be too many issues using a contractor you may not be able to get someone with the experience to know how to handle certain items correctly.
cheers
Ron Hunter  
#4 Posted : 08 July 2016 13:10:52(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

Small trolley and proprietary carboy handler - and walk!!!
Ian Bell2  
#5 Posted : 08 July 2016 13:48:33(UTC)
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Ian Bell2

Quite agree.
Whats wrong with the original containers? Transfer back into suitable delivery containers. Suitable screw top etc. Sure separate incompatible chemical groups.

Then load into a suitable plastic carriage box & trolley etc.

Then a pleasant walk in the summer sun.

What was the thread the other day about over zealous risk assessments?
Graham Bullough  
#6 Posted : 08 July 2016 14:34:35(UTC)
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Graham Bullough

Excellent replies above by Ron Hunter and Ian Bell2. I guess that the science technicians involved, if they are reasonably experienced and competent, would think the same - and likewise the wise people at CLEAPSS - an excellent organisation in my former long experience of working with schools.

For the sake of those who don't know (and to save members of the 'acronym & abbreviation police' from moaning on this forum!), CLEAPSS is no longer an acronym but a name in its own right for the organisation which provides practical advice, guidance and training for the teaching of science and also technology in local authority primary and secondary schools. As explained on its website at http://www.cleapss.org.uk/about-cleapss , other organisations including independent schools, academies, colleges, teacher training establishments, field centres and even museums can become associate members. The letters CLEAPSS used to stand for 'Consortium of Local Education Authorities for the Provision of Science Services', but this became increasingly inaccurate due to the extensions of the organisation's remit and membership. Also, Scotland has a similar organisation, SSERC (Scottish Schools Education Research Centre), which serves Scottish local authority schools plus most independent schools and further education colleges in Scotland.

Graham B
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