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Invictus  
#1 Posted : 27 July 2016 08:06:36(UTC)
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Invictus

Has anyone read this in the IOSH mag. It's an aim at making fire drills realistic and cutting costs to business. I like this bit: Ideally, training will not be desk-based but involve realistic scenarios. It could be competitive, seeing which team could evacuate the fastest, for example. “This way, the workplace is more fun too,” says Awolesi, “but the safety message is still being passed. It’s the process, procedure and focus that we’re changing, not the message.” Really now we have the possibility of people sprinting down stairs etc. To win yea really makes it fun seen as it wasn't so long ago the message was going out to inform people a drill was taking place to prevent accidents. Can see the headlines 'Fun event fire drill turns to tragedy' Disabled person pushed down stairs to make room so workers could win prize, by running down the stairs. I think it's a great idea, novel but not safe!
jwk  
#2 Posted : 28 July 2016 10:03:01(UTC)
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jwk

Abseiling can be quite quick way to get out of a building, though you'd look pretty silly trying it from the ground floor, John
Invictus  
#3 Posted : 28 July 2016 11:50:10(UTC)
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Invictus

If it was my employees I would expect them to win at all costs and if we knew someone was slow throw them out the window as your only as fast as the last man.
chris42  
#4 Posted : 28 July 2016 12:43:35(UTC)
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chris42

quote=Invictus]If it was my employees I would expect them to win at all costs and if we knew someone was slow throw them out the window as your only as fast as the last man.
They should not waste the time of the rest of the team throwing them out , they should do the honorable thing and jump :0) Of course and intelligent team would ensure they are all on the ground floor throughout the day the drill is due.
chas  
#5 Posted : 28 July 2016 13:32:52(UTC)
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chas

To spice things up they could do the evacuation blindfolded, (simulating total power failure - of course). Then the First Aiders could have some practice dealing with multiple casualties too ;)
mssy  
#6 Posted : 28 July 2016 15:31:01(UTC)
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mssy

Invictus wrote:
Has anyone read this in the IOSH mag. It's an aim at making fire drills realistic and cutting costs to business. I like this bit: Ideally, training will not be desk-based but involve realistic scenarios. It could be competitive, seeing which team could evacuate the fastest, for example. “This way, the workplace is more fun too,” says Awolesi, “but the safety message is still being passed. It’s the process, procedure and focus that we’re changing, not the message.”
Sorry Invictus, are you saying IOSH are endorsing this idea or just reporting it? I would like to hear how competitiveness can assist in delivering a safe emergency evacuation procedure? If you want to introduce realism perhaps close an escape route, but there's no need to have fancy dress or talent show half way down the staircase Is this idea from the US by any chance??????
kinning  
#7 Posted : 28 July 2016 20:58:20(UTC)
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kinning

chas wrote:
To spice things up they could do the evacuation blindfolded, (simulating total power failure - of course). Then the First Aiders could have some practice dealing with multiple casualties too ;)
Ever done an evacuation with blind people on the scene. I work with blind people in a centre and to evacuate is a nightmare!!
Graham Bullough  
#8 Posted : 28 July 2016 21:40:48(UTC)
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Graham Bullough

From what I've heard and occasionally seen of evacuations in sizeable office buildings, some occupants are too slow at evacuating because they are pre-occupied with using their smart phones to tell relatives, friends and Facebook followers, etc., that they are evacuating - or phoning the switchboard to ask if the evacuation is because of a practice or an emergency! The idea of competitive evacuations seems to me horrendous for all the reasons already advocated above. Even if some workplaces do introduce them, I guess they would have little or no effect on those who feel compelled to let others know whenever they evacuate their workplace! Graham B
Invictus  
#9 Posted : 29 July 2016 07:29:02(UTC)
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Invictus

mssy wrote:
Invictus wrote:
Has anyone read this in the IOSH mag. It's an aim at making fire drills realistic and cutting costs to business. I like this bit: Ideally, training will not be desk-based but involve realistic scenarios. It could be competitive, seeing which team could evacuate the fastest, for example. “This way, the workplace is more fun too,” says Awolesi, “but the safety message is still being passed. It’s the process, procedure and focus that we’re changing, not the message.”
Sorry Invictus, are you saying IOSH are endorsing this idea or just reporting it? I would like to hear how competitiveness can assist in delivering a safe emergency evacuation procedure? If you want to introduce realism perhaps close an escape route, but there's no need to have fancy dress or talent show half way down the staircase Is this idea from the US by any chance??????
I am not saying either I am asking a question has anyone read the article in the mag? I don't see the benefits of making it a competition, I think the competition will be see who is out first without injury to one of the team!
WatsonD  
#10 Posted : 29 July 2016 08:33:34(UTC)
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WatsonD

Too be fair it does say earlier in the article that it should be about people getting out safely and working as a team. "Conventional drills often fail to achieve their objective because people are not paying attention; they think a fre will never happen to them, Awolesi says, adding that an exercise that makes ensuring everyone’s safety the goal will be good for team building. “It changes the focus and engages staf; they feel responsible for someone they know.” When I was at school we had timed fire drills and were encouraged to post a good time, class by class. I recall this was not about running out as fast as we could (running was always banned inside the school), but about reacting quickly to the alarm and working together.
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