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All,
Does anyone have experience of a situation whereby a crane arrives on site, is assembled in order to check everything is in order; at this point it is intended a certificate of TE will be issued. It will not conduct any lifts at this point. It is then disassembled moved to another location (one where you don't want that to be the first time you have assembled it and found something missing - hence the first assembly) by the same team and reassembled. My question is does at this point does another TE need to take place?
My interpretation of LOLER Reg 9 (as below) is that it should as per section 2(b).
'(2) Every employer shall ensure that, where the safety of lifting equipment depends on the installation conditions, it is thoroughly examined —
(a) after installation and before being put into service for the first time; and
(b) after assembly and before being put into service at a new site or in a new location, to ensure that it has been installed correctly and is safe to operate
Thoughts welcome.....
Thanks
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Yes another TE is required.
(b) applies as you have moved it to another location, after the trial installation.
It doesn't say there are any exceptions for trial assembly to check for missing parts etc...
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What if it is a crawler crane where it is just having the tracks, counter weights and jib removed so it can be loaded and moved?
Challenge I am getting is that it is industry standard for Crawler Cranes to arrive to site like that on the back of a low loader with a TE issued by the company supplying it. So why should our trial assembly any different?
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Because taken literally, thats what the LOLER regs say.
Depends on how unpopular you want to be?
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So who insists on TE Certs when Crawler cranes arrive on site with the tracks, counterweights and jib to be assembled? Or do people just go with industry practice as described in previous?
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Can we establish this is a Crawler Crane.
If it is the company supplying can put their own TE on it if their Examiner has been given full Autonomy to do this by the company.
Most companies now whether it be Towers ,Crawlers or Mobiles get these done externally.
But they can legally do their own providing the autonomy can be proven.
Ta Alex
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yes crawler crane, it arrives from previous location via low loaders with an existing TE, the tracks, jib and body are then re assembled at site by competent engineers from the supplier company. where upon an inspection cert is completed by installation team before first use.
Question - is the old TE valid or will an new cert be required under reg 9 2b,
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David like all regulations they are made very difficult to understand. IMO and I have been in the crane industry for a long time but no expert is. A Tower Crane needs a TE every time it is erected if it gets moved on site then this is a discussion point. We always had it done again. Crawler or mobile are moving from site to site therefore 6 or 12 Monthly TE provided it is in date is legal. I have worked to this and up till now this practice is classed as acceptable. I can see where there could be questions asked regarding the crawler crane but it is not a fixed in position crane therefore should be ok with a current certain. I could stand to be corrected on the crawlers as I have not dealt with them for over 10 years.
Ta Alex
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Certificate not certain sorry
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Good question,
Mobile, Crawler & Tower Cranes are all different and could be viewed different. With Tower & Crawler (Majority) are dissembled and erected when they leave / arrive on the Project in the terms of mechanical element of the crane (configuration change). So, the thorough examination would be required to ensure the assembly process / configuration is correct.
With a Mobile Crane, when it arrives to the Project it does not have any mechanical alterations outside the way it is configured and intended use as stipulated by the Manufacturers Guidance and Specifications. So, would not expect it to have a TE every it arrives to site, unless it has mechanical maintenance i.e. rope change etc.
The setting up of the mobile crane is covered by the Lifting Plan that should be done by the Appointed Person.
Also remember to always have lifting equipment thoroughly examined following ‘exceptional circumstances’, eg if it is damaged or fails, is out of use for long periods, or if there is a major change in how it is used which is likely to affect its integrity.
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I think the key is dissembled and reassembled.
Parts go missing, are subject to extra wear and tear if they are getting removed repeatedly, human error, etc.
Think of a car with a MOT working at site A, driving to site B, then working at site B, or a car working at site A, then being dissembled/shipped/reassembled and then working at the site B. You would like to be reassured that it was put back together ok before you stamp on the brakes for the first time!
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