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jonnew  
#1 Posted : 12 October 2016 17:58:08(UTC)
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jonnew

Hi I have a query ref a job we are installing. To cut a long story short we can no longer safely access an area where we need to work at height to complete the install. For numerous reasons we have not been able to get to site within the required timeframes and now there is massive cooling unit installed that prevents access safely. Where do I stand given that our original RAMS did not mention this as we expected to be completed prior to the access issues?

The client has suggested several ways of access none of which control the risks to an acceptable level and Im not comfirbtale with us using them. However we are being put under real pressure to complete

Any suggestions??

Roundtuit  
#2 Posted : 12 October 2016 20:58:44(UTC)
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Roundtuit

IF as you say the situation under which you are expected to work has significanty changed then advise the client the contract has been nullified by the actions of others and you need to re-quote before commencing any works.

Your quotation will have been based upon the available information, supplies, services and access available at that time so it is unrealistic of a client to insist you deliver to a quote based upon a materially different scenario.

The client can "suggest" as much as they want - unfortunately even if you had their signature at the bottom of a waiver/instruction they are not the ones who would end up in the dock.

Might be time to eaxamine how you write your quotes/tenders including cancellations and rechargeable penalties

Roundtuit  
#3 Posted : 12 October 2016 20:58:44(UTC)
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Roundtuit

IF as you say the situation under which you are expected to work has significanty changed then advise the client the contract has been nullified by the actions of others and you need to re-quote before commencing any works.

Your quotation will have been based upon the available information, supplies, services and access available at that time so it is unrealistic of a client to insist you deliver to a quote based upon a materially different scenario.

The client can "suggest" as much as they want - unfortunately even if you had their signature at the bottom of a waiver/instruction they are not the ones who would end up in the dock.

Might be time to eaxamine how you write your quotes/tenders including cancellations and rechargeable penalties

johnmc  
#4 Posted : 13 October 2016 00:25:52(UTC)
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johnmc

Have the guys carrying out the work seen the client’s ideas or do they have any of their own, taking a common sense approach is there a real risk that cannot be controlled in some way?  If not then you have a problem, if it can be controlled and those carrying out the task are happy with the proposed measures then crack on.  In my experience there is a lot of fuss made regarding perceived risk when the actual risk is negligible, which often gives safety professionals a poor image.  Working towards solutions should be our end game, imho, John.

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