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lucaswalter  
#1 Posted : 17 November 2016 12:09:48(UTC)
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lucaswalter

Hi all,

I am preparing COSHH risk assessment of Osmo Natural Oil Woodstain. Classification of the substance is: R52/53:  Harmful to aquatic organisms, may cause long-term adverse effects in the aquatic environment.

That is clear to me.

Howevr in section: "Information concerning particular hazards for human and environment:" I have found the statement: "The product has to be labelled due to the calculation procedure of the "General Classification guideline for preparations of the EU" in the latest valid version."

And I found out it contains 25%-50% of aliphatic hydrocarbons which presents serious health hazard.

Can You give me a hint is a whole mixture of substances is still serious health hazard or those substances react somehow and it is not hazardous anymore?

A Kurdziel  
#2 Posted : 17 November 2016 12:34:40(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

How do you know that “aliphatic hydrocarbons which presents a serious health hazard”? as aliphatic hydrocarbons is good description of petrol or diesel, and yes you have to be careful when you use them but you should be able to control the risk in a fairly straightforward manner.

lucaswalter  
#3 Posted : 17 November 2016 12:38:41(UTC)
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lucaswalter

I should add "when swallowed".

Thanks for answer

Malc 61  
#4 Posted : 17 November 2016 12:51:07(UTC)
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Malc 61

Have a serious look at your SDS as CHIP ratings (R52/53) were superceded with the final implementation of CLP 1-Jun-2016. You should have an SDS with the hazards classified under 1272/2008.

Edited by user 17 November 2016 12:51:43(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

RayRapp  
#5 Posted : 17 November 2016 13:06:04(UTC)
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RayRapp

I'm no scientisit but almost any substance will be harmful if swallowed in sufficient quantities. As for hydrocarbons, which is the term for a heterogenous group of organic substances that are primarily composed of carbon and hydrogen molecules, aliphatic is where the carbon moieties are arranged in a linear or branched chain, or aromatic, in which the carbon moieties are arranged in a ring. They are quite abundant in modern society. Some of the most commonly ingested hydrocarbons include gasoline, lubricating oil, motor oil, mineral spirits, lighter fluid/naphtha, lamp oil, and kerosene. Other common sources of hydrocarbons include dry cleaning solutions, paint, spot remover, rubber cement, and solvents. In addition, many volatile substances that contain hydrocarbons (eg, glue, propellants) are commonly abused for their euphoric effects. So in conclusion, make sure they don't ingest. :)
JohnW  
#6 Posted : 17 November 2016 13:51:06(UTC)
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JohnW

With >20% the hazard of the hydrocarbons is not going to be reduced in the mixture, so I expect there is no hazard phrase because the hydrocarbons are not volatile (higher moleculer weight) and probably not highly flammable. So the ingestion hazard is still there but nothing else worth noting in a COSHH assessment. But anyway get onto the manufacturers website and download a current 2016/2016 msds which will have the rest CLP hazard statements. The PPE section will likely say wear nitrile gloves.
A Kurdziel  
#7 Posted : 17 November 2016 14:00:48(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

As people on the forum have said in the past many SDS are poor to totally rubbish and this one might be a case in point. I also noticed that it was using R phrases rather than Hazard Statements but only 6 months in to the new regime…. One problem is that the phrase “aliphatic hydrocarbons “can refer to a huge variety of substances from gasses like methane, butane, and propane to volatile liquids (eg petrol which is mixture of different ones but includes a lot of octanes) to solid waxy substances. The hazard associate with each type varies considerably but most do not pose a serious long term health issue (unlike aromatic hydrocarbons such are benzene which are nasty).

The material that the original poster is looking at does not look like that much of a hazard so I would suggest that you:

  1. Wear basic PPE when handling this eg chemical resistant gloves
  2. Avoid breathing in any vapour- work with in a well ventilated area
  3. Good hygiene –get them to wash their hands after using it: that is when most people accidentally ingest this sort of product
  4. Dispose of correctly ie not down the drain

This is of course only a suggestion as I am not in receipt of all the facts and it does go wrong don’t blame me, etc  

JohnW  
#8 Posted : 17 November 2016 14:09:02(UTC)
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JohnW

I agree with Kurdziel. I expect the same guidance will be in a current/new msds, as well as the H hazard statements check for the P precautionary statements which are guidance which should be referred to when doing the COSHH assessment.

Edited by user 17 November 2016 16:09:42(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Roundtuit  
#9 Posted : 17 November 2016 15:54:04(UTC)
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Roundtuit

DPD aka CHiP was withdrawn effective 31st May 2015

CLP came in to force for mixtures effective 1st June 2015

We are 18 months in so unless the product has an incredibly long shelf life most SDS and product labelling should be to the new format

Roundtuit  
#10 Posted : 17 November 2016 15:54:04(UTC)
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Roundtuit

DPD aka CHiP was withdrawn effective 31st May 2015

CLP came in to force for mixtures effective 1st June 2015

We are 18 months in so unless the product has an incredibly long shelf life most SDS and product labelling should be to the new format

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