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Hodor  
#1 Posted : 21 November 2016 19:16:25(UTC)
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Hodor

Hi, just wondering what your thoughts are on the requirement for permits for working at height? When do you feel a permit is required? Our company use platform/podium ladders, MEWPs, Mobile Towers, and scaffolds. 99% of the time the access equipment is used indoors in a controlled production facility. Our internal facilities department carry out routine works on the access equipment, and we have vendors/contractors in performing non-routine works on the same equipment. Surely a permit isn't required for works like working off a podium lasser for a short period.

Thanks in advance!

Roundtuit  
#2 Posted : 21 November 2016 19:52:22(UTC)
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Roundtuit

The enlightened use permits to cover abnormal circumstance e,g, a gutter cleaning company arriving once every blue moon. Where WAH is part of the normal undertaking RA, SOP apply. The permit is meant to check the activity is conducted in a controlled manner. Have you got a clipboard clown telling you anything not at ground level demands a permit? in which case make them redundant to cover the business lost time for unnecessary form filling.
Roundtuit  
#3 Posted : 21 November 2016 19:52:22(UTC)
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Roundtuit

The enlightened use permits to cover abnormal circumstance e,g, a gutter cleaning company arriving once every blue moon. Where WAH is part of the normal undertaking RA, SOP apply. The permit is meant to check the activity is conducted in a controlled manner. Have you got a clipboard clown telling you anything not at ground level demands a permit? in which case make them redundant to cover the business lost time for unnecessary form filling.
Hodor  
#4 Posted : 21 November 2016 20:10:27(UTC)
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Hodor

Originally Posted by: Roundtuit Go to Quoted Post
The enlightened use permits to cover abnormal circumstance e,g, a gutter cleaning company arriving once every blue moon. Where WAH is part of the normal undertaking RA, SOP apply. The permit is meant to check the activity is conducted in a controlled manner. Have you got a clipboard clown telling you anything not at ground level demands a permit? in which case make them redundant to cover the business lost time for unnecessary form filling.

Yeah something like that :) Yeah my thinking is the same as yours. Thanks for reply

Bigmac1  
#5 Posted : 21 November 2016 20:49:56(UTC)
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Bigmac1

Permit to work for Working at Height!!

Working at height is an extremely safe activity, if done correctly.

So would I have a permit, ummmmm

Xavier123  
#6 Posted : 22 November 2016 09:16:22(UTC)
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Xavier123

Surely a permit isn't required

In the field you're describing, there are no legal requirements for permits at all.

As someone else alluded to, the legal requirement is demonstrating adequate control over the work activity.  This could be via a permit but could equally be a combination of other factors.  For internal staff, your theoretical ability to control the works is greater - for external contractors (using your equipment) you may take a different view as the control level is probably less.

RayRapp  
#7 Posted : 22 November 2016 09:43:04(UTC)
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RayRapp

The purpose of permit regime is simply as a means of controlling high risk activities where extra controls from the norm are put in place - for example, working in confined spaces, where the risks are substantially higher than most other activities. The danger is having a permit system for all and sundry, which devlaues the permit system and creates unnecessary bureaucracy.
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