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paul reynolds  
#1 Posted : 06 December 2016 07:46:04(UTC)
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paul reynolds

We have a client who is insisting that our company report an incident involving a resident as a RIDDOR. The incident is where a resident has alleged to have stepped on a screw that fell out of a door handle that has not been fitted to the lock block within the door, they subsequently attended A&E to have the screw removed ?.

I would note that the works were completed around 8 months ago and signed off by the client at the time as defect free.

The client has requested it be reported as it is classed as a work related incident, is this correct or am I missing something as we are no longer in control of the property once accepted by the client.

Many Thanks

Scotty C  
#2 Posted : 06 December 2016 07:57:06(UTC)
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Scotty C

Morning Paul

I think it wholly unlikely to be reportable. But, for interest's sake, how are all three parties related (your company, your client and the resident)?

Cheers

paul reynolds  
#3 Posted : 06 December 2016 08:04:36(UTC)
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paul reynolds

Sunstone,

We are the Principal Contractor working for a local council (Client) and the resident is a rent paying council tenant.

Regards

Scotty C  
#4 Posted : 06 December 2016 08:11:16(UTC)
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Scotty C

Thanks. I would say not reportable. Where would it end, otherwise.........??

RayRapp  
#5 Posted : 06 December 2016 08:23:29(UTC)
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RayRapp

I agree with others, the link between work carried out and the injury is far too tenuous in my opinion. Why was the screw not spotted by the staff, cleaner...the ifs and buts could go on forever.
bob youel  
#6 Posted : 06 December 2016 08:59:49(UTC)
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bob youel

Technicially almost anything could be reportable under certain conditions however common sense should also come into play

Have your clients H&S adviser explain on this site just why this is a RIDDOR

regards

HSSnail  
#7 Posted : 06 December 2016 09:20:02(UTC)
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HSSnail

had this happened the day after the work was undertaken I may have had some sympathy with the council wanting a riddor but 8 moths after the work, 8 months or normal use as well as abuse by a domestic tenant (if I am reading the details correct) no way this is RIDDOR.
WatsonD  
#8 Posted : 06 December 2016 10:46:24(UTC)
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WatsonD

I assume you are no longer working (PC) at this premises?

Is there any reason why the council are unable to report this themselves?

I don't agree with the council that it is RIDDOR by-the-way, but as they are the duty holder of the premises, it is their responsibility to report.

MEden380  
#9 Posted : 06 December 2016 14:15:07(UTC)
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MEden380

Hi Paul

If the council want to report it let them report it themselves, they are the landlord of the property, the property is under their demise. But how they can say this incident is work related is beyond me. Previous posts have pointed out the repair you carried out was over 8 months ago.

Allan Jones  
#10 Posted : 15 December 2016 16:10:24(UTC)
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Allan Jones

If your company was engaged in a work related activity on those premises at the time of the incident, it would been seen as a result of a work related accident and you would have a duty to report it. (reg 5 of RIDDOR).

However you mentioned the project was handed over, so the duty holder will be the council.

Invictus  
#11 Posted : 16 December 2016 07:31:10(UTC)
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Invictus

I wouldn't report it if I was the contractor or council, there is no evidence that it was as a direct result of anything you have done.

hilary  
#12 Posted : 16 December 2016 08:05:35(UTC)
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hilary

I think they're having a laugh.  There's no guarantee this screw was even a part of your works, it could have been dropped at any time - 8 months ago?  I don't think so ......

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