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Hi, I think I already know the answer to this one but thought I would double check the advice I am giving. One of my clients is preparing to erect a steel structure on a building site. His crew have work at height training and other training there is evidence of competency. The issue is that no evidence of competency is available on steel erecting even thought they have preformed this task in other european countries. My question is would all persons working on this task require qualifications or would it be acceptable to have a fully qualified steel erector supervising the operation. I have used all the resources I can think of to research this but cannot find a definitive answer. I have already advised them not to undertake the task until I have the appropriate advice. I know that one of the first things on any risk assessment would be the training and competency of those involved. Im just seeing if one supervisor within a small group would cover their legal duties to provide adequately experienced ( trained) Competent workers. Would appreciate any constructive advice. Thanks Des Edited by user 07 December 2016 11:40:43(UTC)
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Everyone has to learn, but a whole team seems a bit much, you could understand someone learning on the job to some extent. You could contact BCSA and ask them for advice. If you are thinking work at height is sufficient then look at this: -
https://www.steelconstruction.org/custom/uploads/2015/05/Scope-of-Competence.pdf
We used to monitor new “experienced” teams on small jobs first by our very experienced site managers. It may partly depend on exactly what they are putting up, tin shed or bridge.
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Well, one qualified person in a company and a load of un or part qualified electricians seems to tick all the boxes with the electrical scams, and the Gov't inquiries into the industry, so why not roll it out to every industry? Let's have one qualified H&S professional in a company and every other H&S person is un or part qualified, say IOSH managing or working safely, that works doesn't it? No? I think from the tone of my post you get my opinion on the matter. After all enyone who uses a screwdriver or a spanner is an Engineer these days, so what's the difference?...
We need to drive UP standards, not dumb things down please.
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