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Mr Rahbek  
#1 Posted : 05 January 2017 20:19:39(UTC)
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Mr Rahbek

I live in a council owned block of flats, and the council is adament that they do not have to provide fire extinguishers in communal areas. I very much beg to differ, and I strongly believe it is a legal requirement to provide and maintain extinguishers, but where do I find the evidence? I have also heard the the Association of Fire Fighters are discussing this at the moment? If anyone could lead me to a conclusive argument, I would highly appreciate it.

Thank you.

Striker84  
#2 Posted : 05 January 2017 20:46:04(UTC)
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Striker84

Hi, The government state that fire extinguishers must be placed in homes that are considered as large Homes of Multiple Occupants (HMO) To be considered as a (HMO) they state that all three of the following criteria should be met: 1. It’s at least 3 storeys high 2. At least 5 tenants live there, forming more than 1 household 3.You share toilet, bathroom or kitchen facilities with other tenants The information is available on the government website. I hope that this helps you come to a conclusion for the matter. Kind regards
RayRapp  
#3 Posted : 06 January 2017 08:09:33(UTC)
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RayRapp

It is a moot point whether portable fire fighting equipment should be provided in various types of properties. That said, the FRA should determine whether fire extinguishers should be provided. The general rule is that where staff are availble in a block of flats, for example, a sheltered scheme or care home, then fire fighting equipment is provided. In the case of General Needs' flats fire fighting equipment is not normally provided for a number of good reasons.

Even with HMOs some fire and rescue services are advising that fire extinguishers are not required on the proviso there are other fire related controls in place, such as, a fire alarm, smoke/heat detectors in each of the dwellings and suitable means of escape. So, whether fire extinguishers should be provided is dependant on a number of factors but as a rule they will not required for most flats.

JayPownall  
#4 Posted : 06 January 2017 08:11:42(UTC)
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JayPownall

Originally Posted by: garyclarke84 Go to Quoted Post
Hi, The government state that fire extinguishers must be placed in homes that are considered as large Homes of Multiple Occupants (HMO) To be considered as a (HMO) they state that all three of the following criteria should be met: 1. It’s at least 3 storeys high 2. At least 5 tenants live there, forming more than 1 household 3.You share toilet, bathroom or kitchen facilities with other tenants The information is available on the government website. I hope that this helps you come to a conclusion for the matter. Kind regards

Gary - i've just been reading up on this as its an interesting one, i've found materials that state certain buildings are not known as HMOs, and are exempted from its defintion - and specific to this scenario; if a property is "Managed or owned by a public body, such as the police or the NHS or an LHA or a Registered Social Landlord" - then it is not to be classed as a HMO.

I am assuming that the block in question, given the council own them, are likely to fall into this non-HMO category - unless of course the LHA or Council have made a declaration stating they are treating their block as a HMO.

(I did advise the OP to give more details as to why the council want to remove in a duplicate thread - could do with mods merging them into one)

Jamie

Edited by user 06 January 2017 08:12:39(UTC)  | Reason: Typo

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