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Birchall31628  
#1 Posted : 20 January 2017 07:16:30(UTC)
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Birchall31628

Is it just me or does anyone else think CDM is not working generally, or should I say being enforced. Restrictions as a result of cuts I appreciate but when you provide first hand evidence that it is not working and the enforcing authority choose to ignore it - ut is concerning. My example was an estate agency converting barns to the rear of its premises and this project has run well over, there have been work at height / excavations / plant and welfare issues and they wrote to this fodgy contractor and was fobbed off...indeed no construction was taking place....There was actually an F10 posted...I provided photographic evidence as a follow up and they didntb want to know. To date, there is still no welfare on this job,,,it is nonsense. And Considerate Contractors - NOT - with noise, dust and housekeeping issues galore

RayRapp  
#2 Posted : 20 January 2017 08:23:53(UTC)
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RayRapp

Despite all these regulations it always comes down to proactive enforcement on how effective they are. The HSE will argue that they are under-manned, so unless there is a serious breach they are not interested which makes a mockery of the regulations and those who do their best to comply. I am aware there are lots of organisations out there in construction, such as, designers, project management, etc, who simply ignore CDM when it suits their purpose. If I know this then so do the enforcing authorities.  

WatsonD  
#3 Posted : 20 January 2017 09:46:21(UTC)
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WatsonD

Interesting... It is not entirely clear from your post, but it is HSE you are contacting?

In which case, I wonder what the situation would be if there was a major accident or fatality on the site and you had evedence that the HSE were made aware of H&S breaches but had ignored them?

Birchall31628  
#4 Posted : 20 January 2017 11:38:42(UTC)
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Birchall31628

Yes it was the HSE via it's Liverpool main office....they wrote to the contractor giving them 2 weeks to reply....this is following series issues about access and the excavations next to domestic properties. After that the contacted me to state that there was no construction work going on.....??? There was half of an F10 posted (initially) plus all my photos. I then sent more photos after that with company signboards posted and the issues escalating...never had a response.

But yes, you are right...if anything was to happen after that where does it leave the HSE?

Thanks also Ray for the input.

RayRapp  
#5 Posted : 20 January 2017 11:46:21(UTC)
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RayRapp

Don't worry about the HSE - teflon springs to mind!

Birchall31628  
#6 Posted : 20 January 2017 15:15:21(UTC)
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Birchall31628

Haha

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