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Hi Everyone
We have a member of staff who we wish to use for welding. We need welding on skips and other equipment. I have asked about which codes we would require him to do if any (he has been on welding courses but is not coded). It is not something I am particularly expert on so any guidance or advice would be appreciated please.
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First point is that although all welding should be carried out by competent welders this does not necessarily mean they have to be coded; I certainly wouldn't be looking for a welder to be coded to carry out repairs to standard waste skips (we do this work regularly and none of our welders are coded).
Examples of where I would expect to see a coded welder would be for working on structural steels in a construction project, pressure vessels, marine vessels, high pressure pipelines etc.
Being a coded welder isn't just a case of sitting a test once and you have in for the rest of your life so you need to work out what codes might be relevant to your works and how much you would make from being able to undertake the works it would allow you too.
My understanding of it all is quite basic from when we looked into the possibility of trying to move into structural steels in construction and the requirements for CE marking under EN 1090 but as I understand it you need to:
- Write a weld procedure and get it qualified by an approved body
- The welder then must be tested against said qualified weld procedure
- To maintain the code, you need to have records which prove that that welder regularly welds against relevant weld procedures regularly in accordance and have these records verified at least once every 6 months.
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From past experience if he is coded for pipe welding this will also cover for sheet metal welding. However if coded solely for sheet metal they wont be coded for pipe welding. However pipe welding is usually for pressurised systems hence the reason for coded welding certs.
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Thanks for your replies.....really appreciated :)
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Now, I was taught that being a Welder was a trade in itself. Therefore I would expect for the work that you need, you would be employing a qualified Welder, with "his" trade certificates. A semi-skilled welder can be taught to pass a coding test, but, put them on site, or more to the point ask them to do repair work where there is no weld procedure and I suspect that they may come unstuck, where as a trained and qualified maintenance welded and fabricator would take such work within their stride.
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Actually, a "qualified" welder would probably not come with his "certificates", since his/her previous employer paid for them. Some are charitable, but at several hundred pounds per test, not many.
A welder coded on pressure vessels/pipes would not be affordable for rubbish skips...
Of course, if you wish to get a welder tested for every technique and position, that would be good news for the testing establishment. Giving them work for a week or two, and a lot of money. And since the testing is usually done at the workplace, occupying that for much time.
Another problem being...they need retesting at intervals.
Most work needs the welders testing to some degree...many contracts specify the degree of competence needed in welding.
Personally, having seen many quicky "welders" put down some of the most beautiful-looking welds, which gave then failed spectacularly on bend tests, I would expect a lot more testing take place.
It was explained to me, by a self-trained welder, that "a weld that looks good, is good".
Which is a load of tosh. A vertical-up weld looks like rubbish to a non-welder, while a vertical down weld, done by MIG, looks beautiful.
The vertical up is the business, the vertical down is car-body-repair stuff, at best.
(I'll not go into basic coated mma vertical down....)
While you're at rubbish skips...take a look at the lifting lugs. An 8 cubic metre skip will have a fair few tonnes hanging from those lugs. Good luck with the legal case if anyone gets hurt by a failure.
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For the job you require, I anticipate that you will be hiring a qualified Welder who possesses the necessary trade certifications.
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Originally Posted by: GB1977  Hi Everyone
We have a member of staff who we wish to use for welding. We need welding on skips and other equipment. I have asked about which codes we would require him to do if any (he has been on welding courses but is not coded). It is not something I am particularly expert on so any guidance or advice would be appreciated please.
Thanks
For welding on skips and general equipment, coded welding is not usually a legal requirement, provided the work is non-structural and not classed as safety-critical (e.g. pressure vessels or certified lifting equipment). What is required is that the person carrying out the welding is competent. If the employee has completed welding courses, this can be accepted as evidence of competence, provided the work is within their capability. It would be good practice to: Limit the work to repairs and fabrication that are non-critical Ensure suitable risk assessments and safe systems of work are in place Inspect welds after completion and keep basic records
If the welding involves structural integrity, load-bearing components, or equipment subject to insurance or third-party inspection, then coded welding to a recognised standard (such as BS EN ISO 9606) may be required.
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Thank you Kamran You do realise that this question was raised and effectively answered and hence done and dusted over 8 years ago. As a matter of interest, if a non-coded welder were to work on a skip which then collapsed whilst up in the air with 8 tonnes of waste in it and half of that waste were to fall and engulf someone standing beneath, would you consider such scenario "critical"? Edited by user 31 December 2025 10:38:54(UTC)
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