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Julian Powell  
#1 Posted : 22 March 2017 05:13:59(UTC)
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Julian Powell

How long would you leave it between checks to see if a lone worker is all right?

I have guys out servicing machines on customers sites.  Some sites are High Risk places like quarries and waste tips.  Jobs often take 2 to 4 hours, some are all day.  Guys frequently work very early, and or very late. Some jobs they start long before 'day' workers arrive on site, some jobs they carry on and finish when everybody else has gone home.

We have trackers on tablets, phones and vans.  These are set to automtically 'ping' a start and end message back to base (e.g. when they start the van to drive home).  I don't want to interupt them frequently, but how long would you give it between checks to see if they are all right.

nischalpuri  
#2 Posted : 22 March 2017 07:05:57(UTC)
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nischalpuri

May be you could have an app on their tablets, in which they check-in every half an hour. If they don't, an automatic ping or sms. The checkin frequency could be different for different jobs. The frequecy can be more for untimely jobs and less for regular times.

colin_best  
#3 Posted : 22 March 2017 08:06:53(UTC)
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colin_best

I am facing a similar issue with my company. We carry out responsive repairs (amongst others things) on social housing.

As with any other form of work, we are expected to undertake a risk assessment before employees are allowed to work alone. In the Health and Safety Executive (HSE) guidance document "Working Alone" a lone worker is defined as someone who works by themselves without close or direct supervision.

Although our operatives are with the resident I cant rely on the resident to administer first aid if something goes wrong.

The risk assessment I done used the operatives PDA and vehicle movement as an alternative to physically phoning in. A recent adition which I fully reconmend researching Sky Guard. I recently purchased theses devices for my Resident Liaison Officers as they are at most risk.

I am working on a standard that splits lone working in to 3 levels of risk to ensure the right level of controls are in place. What are your thoughts and is there any thing really inovative people are doing.

Thanks

RayRapp  
#4 Posted : 22 March 2017 09:19:24(UTC)
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RayRapp

The controls need to be practical and commensurate to the risks. Getting someone to contact every 30 mins is not very practical in most circumstances. It really is about doing what is reasonably practical, which might be stating the obvious, but I have found instances where impractical controls have been put in place and when somone does not phone in it all falls down.

I think there must be some acceptance that not all risks can be adequately controlled, or the controls my not be totally sufficient. There are many workers who work alone in different guises without any extra controls in place. Making sure workers have access to a mobile phone, someone is always available to take their call and providing things like a fully stocked first aid box may be the only practical ways of protecting lone workers.  

Snwdrp84  
#5 Posted : 22 March 2017 09:38:01(UTC)
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Snwdrp84

I very much agree with Ray.  A focus on staff training, hazard awareness, and competence is just as big a focus in lone working

declangibney  
#6 Posted : 22 March 2017 10:09:26(UTC)
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declangibney

I'm inclined to agree with you Ray, Lone Work can be over analyised and presumed dangerous for no reason. It is back to risk assessment and asking the question "what could go wrong" and how likely that is to happen - measured, commensurate control measures are then the answer. These range from alarm and pendant devices that are constantly monitored through to guidance, procedures and mobile phone access. One size doesn't fit all shapes.

colin_best  
#7 Posted : 22 March 2017 11:00:26(UTC)
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colin_best

Risk Assessment is obviously extremely important as mentioned in all the posts.

On top of the operatives that visit residents homes to repair any defects we also have our warehouse manager who opens the office building in the morning. He is the first on site and the last to leave most days. During this time he is lone working.

My point is his control measures are very different to that of an operative at a residents home due to the risks he may encounter.

So depending on the level of risk and what occupational risks are there would depend on what control measures you need to have in place.

jwk  
#8 Posted : 22 March 2017 12:40:57(UTC)
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jwk

Hi Julian,

I think I'd be happy with a ping at start and finish, supplemented with an escalation procedure that kicks in after an interval of about as long as the job is expected to take plus a bit(piece of string I know). Certainly not anything like every 30 minutes.

For our overseas workers in extreme hazard areas (war zones and the like) we allow four hours after the expected contact before we escalate, but in your case where help is nearer at hand and the situation should be more predictable I'd be tempted to act after say 30 minutes beyond the expected contact time,

John

Edited by user 22 March 2017 12:41:41(UTC)  | Reason: Getting name of OP right!

MickBerry  
#9 Posted : 22 March 2017 21:53:28(UTC)
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MickBerry

I agree with Colin’s reply, the only way you can truly identify an appropriate reporting frequency is through the process of a robust risk assessment. 


The reporting frequency is very much influenced by many factors; time of the day/ night and the task being completed. What plant and equipment are being used? Is there a risk of violence?


I have a few clients who use the Sky Guard platform, and it works really for them. Most have adopted a reporting frequency of 2 hours. Then I have other clients who manage their lone workers with good outlook calendar management. 

Steve e ashton  
#10 Posted : 23 March 2017 08:27:02(UTC)
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Steve e ashton

I am surprised that your clients on waste sites and in quarries allow your guys to operate as lone workers....  There are some jobs which should never be done by lone workers - and others which should never be done by lone workers in certain places.  Given the intrinsic risks of quarries and tips - I would have been reluctant to allow virtually any work activity unless there were other people in the vicinity - whether service engineers or operators....

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