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Matthew Beckett  
#1 Posted : 04 April 2017 08:50:56(UTC)
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Matthew Beckett

Dear All 

Today in the news, a report has been published around the enhanced risk of fire fighters being exposed to extreme heat and the increased risk of heart attacks and heart disease. 

1. Does anyone have a link to the original report that they can point me to 

2. What is quanitifed by extreme heat 

Within my workplace we have conducted heat stress surveys, and have the recommendations from the report with regard to limit time exposed, remove to air conditioned areas, rehydration and occupational health surveillance, permitting etc. However it would be good to read the report in full and look at the range of temperatures, and the list of recommendations to see if there is some other practices that we haven't considered. 

I appreciate your time and support, 

many thanks in advance 

Matthew 

WatsonD  
#2 Posted : 04 April 2017 09:00:56(UTC)
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WatsonD

Hi Matthew,

This is a link I found:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-39478080

The research was condicted by Edinborough university: http://www.research.ed.ac.uk/portal/

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Matthew Beckett on 04/04/2017(UTC)
Matthew Beckett  
#3 Posted : 04 April 2017 09:07:58(UTC)
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Matthew Beckett

Hi WatsonD

Many thanks for the link, i had read the BBC report, and followed the link you supplied for Edinborough Uni, I have also googled linked to the journal Circulation, alas i don't have a subscription, to the journal which is slightly frustrating. 

Matt 

Tessie  
#4 Posted : 04 April 2017 10:19:44(UTC)
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Tessie

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Matthew Beckett  
#5 Posted : 04 April 2017 10:24:07(UTC)
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Matthew Beckett

Tessie 

This is brilliant, many thanks for sharing, this is exactly what i was after. \o/

Matt

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Tessie on 04/04/2017(UTC)
firesafety101  
#6 Posted : 04 April 2017 11:09:15(UTC)
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firesafety101

Many years ago as a Station Officer one of my crew suffered a heart attack while attending a dwelling fire.  He was wearing BA and ventilating the first floor at the time.  The fire was not a particularly hot one.

He made a full recovery, so he was told, and returned to duty some months later.

While attending another fire, this time involving a chip shop cooking range, cooking oil on fire, very hot fire conditions, he had to exit the fire because he thought he was having another heart attack.  This time diagnosed with Angina attack.

Once again he returned to duty.

He was eventually retired early from the service following a second heart attack.

Firefighters do experience high temperatures during close firefighting and I agree with the findings of the report but there are so many other factors to consider.  There is stress experienced at every single incident, not just fires but Road Traffic crashes for instance where people are trapped and need to be released right away to prevent them from further injury, other non fire relates incidents that cause PTSD as I have.

The Government have increased the retirement age for firefighters.  

Finally it it not a nice experience to watch somebody die because you are unable to rescue them in time.

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Matthew Beckett on 04/04/2017(UTC)
Matthew Beckett  
#7 Posted : 04 April 2017 11:10:55(UTC)
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Matthew Beckett

This information is very useful and some of the training guidance documents and the outputs from the report are relevant to managing heat stress in the working environment where there is a potential to be exposed. Especially with reference to the core body temperature and recommendations to undertake lite works before and after exposure to help the core body temperature reduce. (Recommendations around hydration strategies and role rotation / exposure reduction, are in place). 

once again thank you for the link. 

Matt 

Edited by user 04 April 2017 11:24:45(UTC)  | Reason: incorrect information - upon re-review of article under results exposure temperature is cited

Matthew Beckett  
#8 Posted : 04 April 2017 11:16:21(UTC)
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Matthew Beckett

Fire Safety 101 

Many thanks for sharing your experience, and i agree with your sentiments, especially around the PTSD, and elevated stress. In the report it talks about this, and how the 'training' environment was not best suited for monitoring real life exposures, 

It does state tha tfurther studies are required outside a fire training facility to assess the effects of real-life fire suppression that will encompass the additional triggers of pyscological stress .... 

I am not in the firefighting arean, but the report has some very useful synergies to understanding heat stress and exposure, and the learnings can be applied in other industries where routine exposure to heat stress occurs. 

many thanks 

Matt 

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