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caleym  
#1 Posted : 31 May 2017 07:39:18(UTC)
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caleym

We had a maanger, who fainted on the shop floor, and when he passed out, he hit his leg on the roller system. He has damaged his ligament, with severe bruisng, and has been signed off until 5th June- this happened on the 17th May. We do not know why he passed out, he is diabetic, but his blood sugars were fine when the paramedic looked at this. Luckily there were no other injuries.

Is this reportable under RIDDOR?

hilary  
#2 Posted : 31 May 2017 07:42:57(UTC)
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hilary

In order for this to be reportable the accident or incident has to have arisen out of a work activity.  As he fainted and then had the accident as a result of the faint, I do not think this is reportable.  I stand to be corrected but that's my two penneth.

caleym  
#3 Posted : 31 May 2017 07:47:28(UTC)
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caleym

This was exactly what I was thinking- the accident arose only because he fainted, and happened to be on the shop floor at the time, and not at his desk.

chris42  
#4 Posted : 31 May 2017 07:57:18(UTC)
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chris42

I would say it is not reportable as well. Unless the work / workplace was the cause of the fainting ie way to hot due to processes or stupidly long shifts etc.

caleym  
#5 Posted : 31 May 2017 08:06:19(UTC)
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caleym

It has not been diagnosed why he fainted, but as he is diabetic, he does tend to rush around and not eat/ drink when he should. I quite often have to nag him (nicely) to have something to eat.  It defininetly is not down to long shifts or the temperature of the factory. Hopefully the nice long rest will help him. Thanks for your help.

DHM  
#6 Posted : 31 May 2017 08:38:52(UTC)
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DHM

Sounds to me like the accident didnt happen as a result of a work process. So not reportable.

Woolf13  
#7 Posted : 31 May 2017 12:28:29(UTC)
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Woolf13

It is an unfortunate situation and I hope the manager makes a full and speedy recovery.

Something to consider: the fainting and reasons for the fainting will need to be looked into seperately. However, the reason they are off work is not because of the fainting. The reason they are off work is because of the damaged ligament from contact with the roller system.

If they had just fainted without injury I would agree with previous comments. However, the injury changes the situation. The accident is the ligament injury and work-related; and it results in an injury of a type which is reportable as it is over seven days.

Therefore it is reportable under RIDDOR.

I hope this helps?

watcher  
#8 Posted : 31 May 2017 12:36:58(UTC)
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watcher

I agree with the majority, absolutely not reportable.

If the fainting was not caused by anything work related (eg fumes, heat) then that is it.

The actual injury doesn't change this at all, while it is unfortunate, it is irrelevant in terms of RIDDOR, as it doesn't meet the qualifying criteria for a work related injury.  It is a red herring.  He could have fainted in the canteen and hit his leg on a chair leg, to the same effect.

So definitely not reportable

Zyggy  
#9 Posted : 31 May 2017 14:29:40(UTC)
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Zyggy

Given the limited information & the absence of any work-related cause for the fainting, I would also go with the "non-reportable" views.

I know it's not in the Regs., but ask yourself if the enforcing authority would be interested in this incident & what, if any lessons could be learnt from it to prevent recurrences.

joescanlon  
#10 Posted : 01 June 2017 11:33:14(UTC)
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joescanlon

I would not report this under RIDDOR. If there were no workplace factors that contributed to the faint itself then the faint is not reportable . Unless the equipment that he struck against was defective and this caused the ligament damage then this would also not meet the criteria for reporting.

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