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CheneryM  
#1 Posted : 13 July 2017 09:29:19(UTC)
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CheneryM

Hello

Ok, so new smoking bins have been erected at my place of work with no consulation with the H&S department who look after the cleaning operatives ( 2 part time, none smokers ). the units are locked with a key and are now overflowing.

The cleaners dont smoke as mentioned above & with there being only two of them, they have enough work on already.

Is the responsibility now going to be forced onto two people to empty these filthy smelly items ? 

I have tried a bit a research on this but its all about the positive things that these bins do ie cleanliness but what about the possible health implications of the people that have to change/empty/clean them when they are full ?

Invictus  
#2 Posted : 13 July 2017 10:12:12(UTC)
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Invictus

Why not make smokers responsible, tell them if they do not clean the bins at every Friday the facility will be removed and they will no longer be allowed to smoke on site.

If you are a unionised site get them involved. At all our sites it is the resonsibility of smokers to ensure that areas designated to them are kept clean and tidy and are not an eyesiore for workers or visitors. Managers at each site have the resonsibilty to inspect and ensure area is clean.

CheneryM  
#3 Posted : 13 July 2017 10:51:14(UTC)
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CheneryM

Thank you for your reply

I am thinking along those lines. I am just trying to see if there is anything out there that can prevent the task being passed down the line to people who dont actually smoke.

I do think its unfair that the cleaners should have to be subjected to cleaning these things even though they are "Cleaners" Is this wrong ?

Kate  
#4 Posted : 13 July 2017 12:02:02(UTC)
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Kate

When I worked as a pot washer in a restaurant I had to clean the saucers that customers had left their cigarettes on instead of using an ash tray (this was before the smoking ban).

It was disgusting.  I was livid.

The bin scenario is clearly far more disgusting.

PIKEMAN  
#5 Posted : 13 July 2017 15:35:39(UTC)
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PIKEMAN

Make sorting this out the responsibility of whoever authorised this to be done. Soemone must have requested a work / purchase order.......................hold them responsible!

jay  
#6 Posted : 13 July 2017 15:59:41(UTC)
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jay

While I agree that there should have been a consultation etc, purely from a health risk, the cig butts do not give off smoke, hence the health risk apart from the smell is extremely low provided the cleaners take basic hygiene precautions. It may be possible to place a non-combustible deodrant powder at the bottom to minimise the smells .

If there had been a consultation, what would have been different?

Roundtuit  
#7 Posted : 13 July 2017 20:35:47(UTC)
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Roundtuit

In the the grand scheme of things for cleaners my sympathies lie with the horrors found in the changing / toilet facilities - a bin is a bin, clearing up miss-aim / vomit / blockages is an entirely different matter

Roundtuit  
#8 Posted : 13 July 2017 20:35:47(UTC)
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Roundtuit

In the the grand scheme of things for cleaners my sympathies lie with the horrors found in the changing / toilet facilities - a bin is a bin, clearing up miss-aim / vomit / blockages is an entirely different matter

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