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rsherl01  
#1 Posted : 08 September 2017 10:32:31(UTC)
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rsherl01

Hi, 


I am looking for some advice on listening to music at work. I currently have 3 grounds persons who listen to their ipods through earphones underneath their ear muffs while using the likes of ride on lawnmowers and strimmers etc. I am 50/50 on whether or not the risk level is high enough to ban their use. They do carry out some works near pathways and roads but most of their work is isolated in grassy areas with no pedestrians or traffic. Any advice would be much appreciated and please no "carry out a full risk assessment" answers if at all possible :-). 

Regards, 

rsherl01

rickstefanetti84  
#2 Posted : 08 September 2017 10:46:16(UTC)
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rickstefanetti84

I'd maybe go with prohibit the use of earphones in busy/populated areas and roadways etc, and then allow them when the use of them is safe and without risk. Keep it simple. Explain the rules and put the ball in their court. If they are broken, then do a blanket no earphones at all rule?

Stuart Smiles  
#3 Posted : 08 September 2017 10:52:10(UTC)
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Stuart Smiles

you can get some ear defenders that have a radio built in to them, have a look at arco, also ones that can have radio for chat to others working near by, perhaps that is a compromise to the lack of audio-visibility that earphones provide, (and can be assessed as suitable for use in noisy enviroment). 

don't think the earphones are a good idea personally, as the individuals will be accused of having insufficient awareness in the event of an accident, and you for not putting a stop to the heinous crime of wanting some music whilst doing a job out in the sun, in addition you'd have to consider the noise impacts for them in your noise surveys etc for industrial deafness, introducing testing and verification regieme for everyone's earphones and phones, which I wouldn't think you'd want to be responsible for if you can avoid it. (recording model, serial no and testing phones, perhaps issuing earphones etc).  

https://www.castleshop.co.uk/accessories-and-other/ppe/3mtm-peltortm-standard-headset-06xh001650932.html for earmuffs with speakers & mic. 

you can also get moulded ear plugs which can have radios in them too,- perhaps speak to an organisation doing sampling like cirrius research or castle group.  

Edited by user 08 September 2017 11:01:49(UTC)  | Reason: added link to earmuffs

Ron Hunter  
#4 Posted : 08 September 2017 11:19:33(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

You had any claims for noise induced hearing loss yet?

Anything coming back from health surveillance?

You're not going to pay out if you know that individual was known to be playing loud music in-ear whilst at work are you? A point for employees to ponder.

Stuart Smiles  
#5 Posted : 08 September 2017 12:00:03(UTC)
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Stuart Smiles

at an iosh event about a year ago, castle said they thought ipod & earphones etc would be the next "ppi".

how you enforce your rules on remote workers is difficult,

especially with cyclists, earphones etc issues and road traffic issues

- would think you have to stipulate off whilst driving to-from worksite on the road from a road safety & awareness perspective. 

douglas.dick  
#6 Posted : 08 September 2017 12:34:00(UTC)
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douglas.dick

Hi,

I have never quite understood how replacing unwanted sound with wanted sound can be a good thing for the worker or the employer! The employee is at work and therefore the employer has a duty of care, how can you tell some years in the future that the sound that caused the titinus came from the machine and not the music?

You employee may also need to be warned that his fuel tank is leaking and on fire! I am think strimmers/brush cutters or blowers where the engine is behind the operator. Other warnings may also be required.

I previouisly owned a company that did this work and agreed with operators that they could use one earphone only, my thinking was that this would break the monotiny and still ensure the operative was able to receive warnings verbally. Now I think I would ban the music altogether.

RayRapp  
#7 Posted : 08 September 2017 18:07:47(UTC)
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RayRapp

With the regards to a potential claim for hearing loss I really do think this is a red herring. There must be some personal responsibility for one's actions, if they choose to listen to Def Leppard at 100 dBA that is their choice!

My main concern would be a loss of situational awareness and concentration. Although if not on a street or highway it could be argued there is little risk. It's one of those things you either prohibit or not, there is no half way house. The problem would be in monitoring the policy. 

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