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Has anyone studied the latest guidance from the CPA/ Strategic forum for construction - plant safety group.
The guidance has only been available for a few weeks and i am just about to get my head into it to see what changes there are. Just wondering if anyone has done the same and what their thoughts on this are.
thanks in advance.
Allan
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If the requirements under LOLER, PUWER and associated plant and equipment training including the provision of a suitable lift plan etc. are followed then we should all be okay in terms of using this type of equipment.
Having said that it is a good practical guidance tool to help supplement the above, with useful case studies and examples. I personally like the statement (in bold):
'An excavator should not be the automatic choice for lifting just because it is already on site and it is quicker and cheaper than using another, more appropriate, piece of lifting equipment. '
The statement in the guidance is making it clear it is about suitable planning and using the most appropriate equipment for the job. This cannot be emphasised enough.
If used in conjunction with the above legislation and training when planning out such works I think it is very useful document for lifting/plant operatives and persons responsible for health and safety.
Edited by user 29 November 2017 13:14:30(UTC)
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I wish i'd had seen this one before i posted this,
http://forum.iosh.co.uk/posts/t126520-Lifting-with-excavators
Do you carry out lifting operations with excavators? Have you read the Strategic Forum Plant Safety Groups new safety guide?
Having spoken to many in the construction industry, it appears that most are totally unaware of fact the Strategic Forum Plant Safety Group has published a new safety guide called Lifting operations with 180 and 360 excavators in November 2017. The few that did know were either in the process of re-writing their procedures or were claiming they had banned all lifting with excavators. The problem with “Prohibition” is it drives things underground (forgive the groundwork pun). I wonder if the people putting a ban in place have ever seen how much lifting an excavator actually does on the average construction site? We have already identified 50 items (manhole rings & boxes, clay and concrete pipes, Rammex ect ect) A crane lifting AP lifting plan is easy compared with an excavator one. There is so much more to take into consideration when lifting with excavators, even as a SME we have over 40 + manufacture's duty charts (3 tonne, 5 tonne, 8 tonne, 13 tonne, 21 tonne, 35 tonne) and different makes have different capacity’s. Then each have potentially different arm lengths and shoe sizes, then it's blade up, blade down, or no blade, over the front over the side etc, etc. Then you have ground conditions and levels, the height of the load & angle of the lifting chains/slings, the radius. Pick carry duties have to be reduced as the manufactures don’t provide this information in their duty charts. Then you have the fact duty charts don’t take into account the weight of quick hitches..........
I would be very interested to see how others are complying, as this is causing me a major amount of work, not to mention the increased consumption of headache tablets!
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