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WatsonD  
#1 Posted : 01 December 2017 09:49:51(UTC)
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WatsonD

Take a look at what H&S now has to add to its list of supposed crimes against the people thanks to the machinations of the ignorant:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-42180763

*sighs...

Edited by user 01 December 2017 13:45:06(UTC)  | Reason: Spelling mistake

A Kurdziel  
#2 Posted : 01 December 2017 10:08:48(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

No lights on it either as electricity is DANGEROUS

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Invictus  
#3 Posted : 01 December 2017 10:46:34(UTC)
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Invictus

Originally Posted by: A Kurdziel Go to Quoted Post

No lights on it either as electricity is DANGEROUS

There are no lights because everyone has to stay at a safe distance including the workforce. 
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WatsonD on 01/12/2017(UTC)
RayRapp  
#4 Posted : 01 December 2017 11:00:37(UTC)
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RayRapp

Makes those Tryffyds look quite tame!

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WatsonD on 01/12/2017(UTC)
hilary  
#5 Posted : 01 December 2017 11:10:28(UTC)
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hilary

If Derby Council want a tree then they really need to spend the money and secure it properly so it won't fall down. This is just a cheapskate method and they should either do it properly or not at all.

Bah humbug

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WatsonD on 01/12/2017(UTC)
Hsquared14  
#6 Posted : 01 December 2017 11:25:07(UTC)
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Hsquared14

You just despair really sometimes don't you?

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WatsonD on 01/12/2017(UTC)
Roundtuit  
#7 Posted : 01 December 2017 15:42:12(UTC)
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Roundtuit

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-42198361

Apparently they now admit to being over cautious

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Roundtuit  
#8 Posted : 01 December 2017 15:42:12(UTC)
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Roundtuit

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-42198361

Apparently they now admit to being over cautious

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WatsonD  
#9 Posted : 04 December 2017 09:04:32(UTC)
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WatsonD

Originally Posted by: Roundtuit Go to Quoted Post

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-42198361

Apparently they now admit to being over cautious

Yes, but they are still blaming H&S

The council said in a statement: "As is the case every year, we review the risk assessments related to the city Christmas decorations based on current health and safety legislation.

"On the basis of that review we decided to increase the security area around the tree."

I'd love to know exactly what legislation has changed in the past 12 months to cause this reaction.

CDL  
#10 Posted : 04 December 2017 09:16:21(UTC)
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CDL

Maybe they should focus on spending more on the local police to stop weekend drunk from trying to scale the tree? You know, whilst we are all pointing fingers here.

And/ or stop letting the office junior pass comment to the press.

I think the damning part of these articles is that plenty of other local authorities seem to be managing fine without having to use H&S as an excuse for incompetence

A Kurdziel  
#11 Posted : 04 December 2017 09:25:41(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

Originally Posted by: WatsonD Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Roundtuit Go to Quoted Post

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-42198361

Apparently they now admit to being over cautious

Yes, but they are still blaming H&S

The council said in a statement: "As is the case every year, we review the risk assessments related to the city Christmas decorations based on current health and safety legislation.

"On the basis of that review we decided to increase the security area around the tree."

I'd love to know exactly what legislation has changed in the past 12 months to cause this reaction.

It is a well-known fact that regulations are introduced at random with no publicity or consultation. They’re also never published on any government website. This means that the first that you know about the new regulations is when someone from a company trying to sell you something tells you: ”Keep upto date with latest H&S regs and buy our tat and overpriced services that you really don’t need!”

Zyggy  
#12 Posted : 04 December 2017 16:27:22(UTC)
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Zyggy

Post #10 brings back memories of a certain organisation that employed salespeople to go round sites offering to sell "legally required" posters/notices at extremely high prices - none of which were needed. This organisation sailed very close to the wind by strongly hinting, albeit not actually stating, that they were from the HSE. My instructions to our security personnel were to remove them from site if they ever tried to get in again! On a similar theme, my local Chinese takeaway was being asked to pay for an exorbitantly priced H&S Law Poster until I gave the owner some advice. He saved some money & my portions got bigger!
Yossarian  
#13 Posted : 07 December 2017 12:40:35(UTC)
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Yossarian

I do think this article provides a more balanced view of the industry (from an enforcement perspective at least).

David Bannister  
#14 Posted : 07 December 2017 12:55:34(UTC)
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David Bannister

Originally Posted by: Yossarian Go to Quoted Post

I do think this article provides a more balanced view of the industry (from an enforcement perspective at least).

Is this really the link you meant to post?

Yossarian  
#15 Posted : 07 December 2017 13:11:02(UTC)
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Yossarian

You should be seeing an article from the Graun speculating where the real problem with H&S resides. Note, the "B" word, while topical, is to my mind circumstantial to the argument.

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