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So, I have just signed up two of my apprentices to under take the NEBOSH general certifciate. The final part of the exam, as you will know consists of a 2 hr practicle either in the work place or collage work shops. The lads have been told they must only report on the finding from the initial inspection and cannot add anything they missed, even if they realise thier mistake.
So onto the cheat. Another person i know is taking the same exam via distance learning. His practical consists of him " prentending" from home and to have done the practical inspection, when in fact he will compelety make it up. As there is no time limit (15 days) he can rewrite it as many times as he sees fit and alter anything. So my question is how on earth can this be fair and should the distance learning company be reported? There are actually several doing it and saying the same
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In the first instance I would contact NEBOSH and go through their process/rationale for clarity. If after this you feel there is still something untoward I would then raise your concerns to them.
NEBOSH take matters of cheating etc. extremely seriously as they have a brand name to uphold and you will find them very helpful with any queries/concerns.
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Is the exam realy distance learning? I did some NEBOSH courses a long long time ago where i studied on my own via one of the big providers, but all the exams had to be done at one of the recognised centres?
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They were referring to the practical which can be done by distance.
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And, of course, as there are no NEBOSH invigilators present when anyone does their practical the possibility of the 'cheat' is no different in practical terms. ( No I am not specifically accusing just saying the possibiltiy exists) Interesting question though. I guess it is about integrity as much as anything else. Who are you actually cheating? Yourself? How much weight is given to the practical in the overall markings these days? That might explain why the process is the way it is. Edited by user 04 June 2018 15:34:44(UTC)
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The purpose of the practical is for the candidate to conduct, unaided, an inspection of the workplace, identifying hazards, deciding if they are adequately controlled and making a persuasive case to management for inprovements taking into account costs, benefits etc.
So what happens if the workplace is properly controlled and no real improvements can be identified. What is the candidate to do then? He / she will be missing out on an awful lot of marks by just saying everything is OK. Do they, as you put it, make something up to get the marks? What is your advice in that instance?
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Originally Posted by: pl53  The purpose of the practical is for the candidate to conduct, unaided, an inspection of the workplace, identifying hazards, deciding if they are adequately controlled and making a persuasive case to management for inprovements taking into account costs, benefits etc.
So what happens if the workplace is properly controlled and no real improvements can be identified. What is the candidate to do then? He / she will be missing out on an awful lot of marks by just saying everything is OK. Do they, as you put it, make something up to get the marks? What is your advice in that instance?
I agree, the sites we run all have had OHSAS18001 for 10 years...each site has a dedicated safety person....safety is very well run and managed. Even the external 18001 auditors struggle to identify any safety management issues and corrective actions...and trust me those guys are pretty anal sometimes...So what is one susposed to do in a situation such as this in relation to a NEBOSH practical examination?
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When I did mine for a local college, the lecturer used one of the carpentry workshops. He went in beforehand and set up so there were some things to identify. Later as a group we were allowed in the room for a preiod of time (Iforget how long but not long) to look round and take notes, then we were led up to a classroom were we had to write up the report. I assume this was agree with NEBOSH beforehand as per the guidance above.
We did have a time limit as we were on College premises and only able to use for a short time, but the guidance says nothing of time limits.
As for being a cheat for simulating, I'm not sure that NEBOSH want anything more than evidence of being able to write a persausive report citing regs. Simulation or not, I don't see how that matters as long as the report is written to criteria.
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When I did my certificate (in Latin it was that long ago!) I used a loading bay at my workplace. I identified enough hazards but I might have “enhanced” them to make them look more interesting so as to create a need for a better range of controls. Interestingly the whole process was overseen by the organisation’s business manager who counter-signed the declaration form. I too believe it is the report element that is key not the observations bit (which is easy to be honest).
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If you have a well controlled work-place where you believe the delegate is going to struggle, why not consider reverse engineering the activity - can they identify the controls? If they can, what was the risk and the preceding hazard? Its that simple, they still get the full understanding of the process.
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When I did my NEBOSH practical (NCC2) some years back, the site I went to was run extremely well with very little hazards to note. The guidance document advised that candidates needed to identify at least 20 uncontrolled hazards and a minimum of 5 breaches to be awarded full marks. My options were to either create some scenarios that I could base my report on or fail the assessment. Imagine if my “persuasive report” to management was simply highlighting the lack of sweeping up being carried out in the site mess room? Or it focused solely on a fire extinguisher not being fastened to the wall with the correct fixing? I would have had nothing to report in terms of potential breaches to legislation and associated consequences for each breach. My “persuasive” report would have been more of a comic strip without a bit of imaginative thinking. Does that make me a cheat? I got 97% for my practical too. Feel I dont deserve it now. (big sigh)
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