I'm trying to get clarification for whether or not i need to report under RIDDOR for an over 7 days lost workday case that was for a UK employee but it happened in another country (Iraq) whilst working.

It seems to be a bit of a grey area. From what i've read my gut feeling is that it will have to be reported. If it does then that's fine and we will do that but we dont want to take on a RIDDOR reportable if its not necessary.

any advice or guidance welcome.

No - but open to be challenged.

UK Legislation and Regulation - applies to UK. If Iraq have adopted this legislation then yes - (offshore oil and gas, military bases etc do cause issues sometimes).

It still happen whilst at work, so your own accident book, internal procedures, etc apply. But do you expect the HSE to go and visit Iraq?

I accidently deleted my previous post. I stand by what i orginally said. RIDDOR is not applaicable in foreign countries. The HSE does not investigate any incidents occurring outside GB.

Hi

This is the note attached to the 2013 order referred to above. These are extremely useful when trying to mke sense of SI's/orders

It clearly covers only the seas around the UK: oil/gas etc., so I would judge that Iraq is way outside it and thus no Riddor. It remains important, of course, for the circumstances to be investigated and any remedial actions to be undertaken and not to be hung up on the reporting yes or no.

Regards

Mike 

EXPLANATORY NOTE (This note is not part of the Order) 1. This Order revokes and re-enacts with amendments the Health and Safety at Work etc. Act 1974 (Application outside Great Britain) Order 2001 (“the 2001 Order”), which applied sections 1 to 59 and 80 to 82 of the Health and Safety at Work etc. Act 1974 (“the prescribed provisions”) to certain premises and activities in the territorial sea adjacent to Great Britain and to areas designated under the Continental Shelf Act 1964. In addition to minor and drafting amendments, this Order makes the following changes of substance.

2. The application of the prescribed provisions to certain premises or activities within the territorial sea or a designated area now extend to gas importation and storage (article 8) within a gas importation and storage zone which is defined in article 2.

3. Article 10 extends the application of the prescribed provisions to underground coal gasification production in the territorial sea and to designated areas.

4. The Health and Safety Executive plan to review the operation and effect of this Order five years after it comes into force.

5. A full impact assessment of the effect that this instrument will have on the costs of business and the voluntary sector is available from the Health and Safety Executive’s website (http://www.hse.gov.uk/ria) A copy is also annexed to the Explanatory Memorandum which is available alongside the instrument on www.legislation.gov.uk. ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Surely the purpose of RIDDOR is more than just to allow HSE to book a field trip? I doubt they investigate even 10% of what is reported.