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firesafety101  
#1 Posted : 05 September 2018 19:59:00(UTC)
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firesafety101

Hi, a friend of mine (ha ha) is attending interview next week and needs to know a few bits of information but he is stuck.

Does anyone have ideas about the terms  'Always On', 'Complimentary Experts' and 'Memory Makers'.

My friend (ha ha) has a few ideas like Always on could be 'switched on with 100% concentration right through the time on duty'.

Memory makers could be 'specific events that stand out to cause the memory to remember stuff'.

As for Complimentary Experts I, (I mean he ha ha) hasn't a clue.

He would also like some tips on 'Group Activities' during an interview'.

Thanks on my friend's behalf.

Roundtuit  
#2 Posted : 05 September 2018 20:40:20(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Sounds like your friend will be playing BS jargon bingo. Google throws out some interesting answers but for what its worth I will offer For always on read accessible at all times - forget holidays, evenings, weekends - if we want to talk you will be contactable Complementary not complimentary experts are exactly that - a group of individuals with unique skill sets who together provide a business service greater than what a single individual could provide. Old school would be Quality, Environment, H&S, working as a single team each an expert in their field but able to stand in to cover absence of another. Memory Makers I have heard used in mentoring and coaching i.e. the delivery and message become ingrained upon the recipient - that one teacher you remember for the right reasons from school. Group activities? are these examples to demonstrate the above or is it a simultaneous multiple applicant stage interview?
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Roundtuit  
#3 Posted : 05 September 2018 20:40:20(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Sounds like your friend will be playing BS jargon bingo. Google throws out some interesting answers but for what its worth I will offer For always on read accessible at all times - forget holidays, evenings, weekends - if we want to talk you will be contactable Complementary not complimentary experts are exactly that - a group of individuals with unique skill sets who together provide a business service greater than what a single individual could provide. Old school would be Quality, Environment, H&S, working as a single team each an expert in their field but able to stand in to cover absence of another. Memory Makers I have heard used in mentoring and coaching i.e. the delivery and message become ingrained upon the recipient - that one teacher you remember for the right reasons from school. Group activities? are these examples to demonstrate the above or is it a simultaneous multiple applicant stage interview?
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firesafety101  
#4 Posted : 05 September 2018 22:06:12(UTC)
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firesafety101

Hi Roundtuit, did you get that information from your friend, he is really very good.

I like the jargon bingo idea ha ha

Always on - you could be right.  I won't divulge the employer at this stage but they do need their staff when they need their staff.  

Complementary (thank you) Expert -  yes I think you have it spot on.  Thanks. A team within a Team but not sure about standing in for each other as the Teams have their own special qualities.  Like a firefighter working alongside a police officer perhaps?

Memory Makers - if you visit Disney World they take photographs for you and call them memory makers, however that is not for this topic.  I like your description and remember my English teacher from 1965, he was great and made me love the subject. Funnily enough his name was Mr. England. The following year I had a right Bi**h and hated English. 

Group Activities - it is a multiple applicant three part interview process and this is part two.  I have no further information about this part.

Many thanks for your help, Roundtuit.

A Kurdziel  
#5 Posted : 06 September 2018 08:17:55(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

It looks like the interview will be domnated by HR BS rather than questions about the job!

Tell him "Good  Luck"

Edited by user 06 September 2018 10:36:03(UTC)  | Reason: spelling of course

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DaveBridle  
#6 Posted : 06 September 2018 09:27:38(UTC)
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DaveBridle

For group activities - I believe it will be all the applicants being set a task i.e. get a marble from one side of the room to the other using only piece of paper and it cannot touch the floor.  The interviewing panel will observe the applicants interactions.  The purpose is to try and spot the leaders, talkers, the doer etc.  They will want someone who is willing to be a combination of all of these with emphasis on finding their ideal candidate.

Hope this helps

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firesafety101  
#7 Posted : 06 September 2018 10:29:34(UTC)
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firesafety101

Hi Dave, my friend says he would wrap up the marble in the paper and throw it across the room.  Will he pass.  By the way he lost all his own marbles some years ago.

Actually that was what concerned him, been there, done that and never got to the end.

Thanks for your input.

firesafety101  
#8 Posted : 13 September 2018 09:33:56(UTC)
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firesafety101

Morning all, my friend has been successful and is now a member of the Specialist Fire Management Team at Liverpool Football Club.

Interview Monday and very informal.  A few silly games to get us all talking, one group exercise involved making a tower using pieces of a large plastic toy, writing down the instructions for building then taking it apart and swapping instructions with another group to build theirs.  It went quite well actually.

A few Flip Chart exercises also went well then the one to one interview.

He was asked three questions about his working experiences, one a Memory maker where he did something that another person will remember, a story about a H&S visit to a pharmacy and the H&S Manager was in attendance and appreciated all advice given.

Second was a story abourt a multiple rescue he was involved in, people assisted from upper floors by ladder and drainpipe then use of the oxygen resuscitation machine on a bedridden lady who was too large to get out of her bed and carry down three flights of stairs.  Lots of firefighting action going on, the interviewer was enthralled as my friend was telling him that story.

Third was a story about a Ship on fire in Bootle Docks, as soon as he started that story the interviewer said "Another fire story - Great".  He was once again enthralled and thanked my friend for his time and the stories.  He doesn't usually get anything like that during his interviews. 

My friend had put together a lever arch file containing lots of evidence including certificates and samples of his work, starting in 1968, but the interviewer did not wish to see them, he was satisfied already and told my friend he will probably "go up".

Induction yesterday, at Anfield, and will be paid for that.  4 hours with a tour of the stadium, talks by the Chef and Entertainments manager and a few others.  Samples of food, lovely portion of Scouse with beetroot, and some Party type games to finish off, including an Omlette cooking competition, I made the omlette and my partner had to eat it very quickly then carry the baton onto the next game.

On the whole the New Job experience was the best I have ever had, they are very welcoming, it's all about customer satisfaction, pleasing the supporters and hoping they all go home remembering a great time, win or lose.  Looking like a good company to work for.

Some videos were shown during the two days but my friend managed to survive the brainwashing attempts and is still an Evertonian.  They don't know that yet, he was never asked.

Once again thank you for the help and support.

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A Kurdziel  
#9 Posted : 13 September 2018 10:36:04(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

a case of brains(and character) baffle b******t rather than the other way round!

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DaveBridle  
#10 Posted : 13 September 2018 13:30:45(UTC)
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DaveBridle

Please pass on my congratulations to your friend.

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PIKEMAN  
#11 Posted : 13 September 2018 13:57:19(UTC)
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PIKEMAN

Interviews like this are not neccessarily "BS". I despair at the professionalism of some people who denigrate "HR" beacuse they do not understand what is going on. Very often everyone selected for the interview will have the technical / qualifications to "do" the job, so they are testing your problem solving, teamworking, communication skills, and so on, and not your health and safety knowledge.  Before anyone jumps to conclusions I have never worked in HR, only SHE and general management.

Edited by user 13 September 2018 13:58:36(UTC)  | Reason: Typo

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Roundtuit  
#12 Posted : 13 September 2018 14:00:42(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Your friend must have appreciated the pointers since they took you to make omlettes ;-)

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Roundtuit  
#13 Posted : 13 September 2018 14:00:42(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Your friend must have appreciated the pointers since they took you to make omlettes ;-)

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firesafety101  
#14 Posted : 13 September 2018 14:28:14(UTC)
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firesafety101

Ha ha, the omlette was almost scrambled egg, he was in a race.  The pointers are all most appreciated.

firesafety101  
#15 Posted : 13 September 2018 14:36:28(UTC)
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firesafety101

Originally Posted by: PIKEMAN Go to Quoted Post

Interviews like this are not neccessarily "BS". I despair at the professionalism of some people who denigrate "HR" beacuse they do not understand what is going on. Very often everyone selected for the interview will have the technical / qualifications to "do" the job, so they are testing your problem solving, teamworking, communication skills, and so on, and not your health and safety knowledge.  Before anyone jumps to conclusions I have never worked in HR, only SHE and general management.

Pikeman, every employer will have their own style of finding out about prospective new employees. The application form was quite involved followed by the interview, 4 hours of various stuff, mainly communication and being positive.  The face to face was different for everybody.

Induction continued the selection process with observations being made all the time.  About 60 new employees with different roles, I am one of two Fire Management staff who attended yesterday afternoon, others were safety stewards, catering staff, hosts, and a few others, all together in the one induction with further group work.

It seems a lot to be all together but I think it made for an interesting afternoon.

A Kurdziel  
#16 Posted : 14 September 2018 10:08:27(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

Originally Posted by: PIKEMAN Go to Quoted Post

Interviews like this are not neccessarily "BS". I despair at the professionalism of some people who denigrate "HR" beacuse they do not understand what is going on. Very often everyone selected for the interview will have the technical / qualifications to "do" the job, so they are testing your problem solving, teamworking, communication skills, and so on, and not your health and safety knowledge.  Before anyone jumps to conclusions I have never worked in HR, only SHE and general management.

I share an office with HR people. I see them in their natural habitat  every day…

firesafety101  
#17 Posted : 18 October 2018 12:03:32(UTC)
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firesafety101

Update from my friend who has attended his first match.  Manchester City were the visiters and no trouble at all.  My friend was was given an orange jacket with the words Match Steward and put in charge of an up escalator before kick off, then moved to the top of the main stand, lots of steps to climb, he was knackered and one of the fans offered him his seat ha ha, funny that as had he accepted the seat he would have had to eject the fan for standing in the all seater stadium.  Then a position in front of a food counter for half time then back to the main stand and then escalator now going down.

He enjoyed the experience, acting as generat match steward for the first game.

Meeting yesterday to learn about the role of Specialist Fire Management Team.  12 new recruits all 'off the shelf' ex fire service so not much training required.

Next game they will be Safety Stewards shadowing the existing, yellow jackets, two games after that we will be Fire Management Team with our own yellow coats with the word FIRE front and back.

Its a new role and to be developed as we go along but it seems fine and enjoyable.

There are a few places available if anyone is interested.  Sorry but this is not an advertisement, just a simple comment.

Mark-W  
#18 Posted : 18 October 2018 14:43:58(UTC)
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Mark-W

This forum never ceases to amaze with the comprehensive advice it delivers. There are several other forums I'm a member of, and you dared to ask a quesstion that had been asked before you were publically shamed with a link to the previous post. Rather than here, it just gets answered for you.

I class this forum as a good investment of my membership fees. Not that any of you get paid to anser my quweestions mind.

Elfin Davy 09  
#19 Posted : 18 October 2018 15:07:44(UTC)
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Elfin Davy 09

Yeah, we're a good bunch us !  Wonder if that's why we don't have (or need) Moderators any more ?  :-)

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Messey  
#20 Posted : 19 October 2018 22:38:47(UTC)
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Messey

Well done Firesafey 101, or should I say your friend? That sounds like a really interesting job. Is it full time or match days only?

The interview process can be really hard going, especially if like me, you haven't been through the recruitment process for a long time. The interview for my current job was my first for well over 30 years. Nobody had heard of a CV or assessment centre back then!!

The more recent recruitment process involved a 50 page application form, 3 x interviews with the panle getting more senior each time (one meeting was 3 hours long & involved me giving a 45 min lecture) and a medical. I don't think I got the job because I was the best candidate, it was just that nobody else could be bothered to jump through so many hoops!!! :)

A Kurdziel  
#21 Posted : 22 October 2018 08:18:00(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

Originally Posted by: Messey Go to Quoted Post

Well done Firesafey 101, or should I say your friend? That sounds like a really interesting job. Is it full time or match days only?

The interview process can be really hard going, especially if like me, you haven't been through the recruitment process for a long time. The interview for my current job was my first for well over 30 years. Nobody had heard of a CV or assessment centre back then!!

The more recent recruitment process involved a 50 page application form, 3 x interviews with the panle getting more senior each time (one meeting was 3 hours long & involved me giving a 45 min lecture) and a medical. I don't think I got the job because I was the best candidate, it was just that nobody else could be bothered to jump through so many hoops!!! :)

Often all they want is stamina and Perseverance, which is often no bad thing

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