Welcome Guest! The IOSH forums are a free resource to both members and non-members. Login or register to use them

Postings made by forum users are personal opinions. IOSH is not responsible for the content or accuracy of any of the information contained in forum postings. Please carefully consider any advice you receive.

Notification

Icon
Error

Options
Go to last post Go to first unread
hailss  
#1 Posted : 15 May 2019 20:07:11(UTC)
Rank: New forum user
hailss

I understand that there is no legal requirements around the provision of Defribillaltors in the workplace as it currently stands and wanted to understand what the position and thoughts are across this forum.  I work for a Utility and as such we have multiple offices and sites across a large geographical area and although we have installed a number of units this is in reality a very limited number and generally in the larger offices.  We have a number of what the Company has termed as High Hazard sites but these don't all have a defibrillator on them.

What are your thoughts and experiences?

Does anyone know of any moves to change the legal stance on provision?

What if anything do others use to carry out an assessment of need for these units

Roundtuit  
#2 Posted : 15 May 2019 21:08:49(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user
Roundtuit

How many work on your high hazard sites, what is the demographic of this work force i.e. what does your risk assessment say?

Mine says that despite an ageing workforce we have an adequate number of first aiders in a well populated shop floor, are close to an A&E hospital with an ambulance trust whose response rate is "reasonable" so no defibs.

ttxela  
#3 Posted : 16 May 2019 08:16:56(UTC)
Rank: Forum user
ttxela

I'm not aware of any move to make them a requirement in any way.

One note of caution, losts of sites/estates seem to share information on who has them, one of our sites had signs up say the nearest defib was at XXXX around the corner in the next road. When I checked they had moved out several months back! Probably an unpleasant experience for all involved if it was needed and someone rushed around there expecting to find one....

We will be leasing one to keep at reception, we haven't carried out an assessment of need but I'd predict if we did we'd determine the risk was about as low as it could be, our workforce is predominantly young and healthy and the work done is relatively low risk. We are a fair step from the nearest hospital though.

thanks 1 user thanked ttxela for this useful post.
A Kurdziel on 16/05/2019(UTC)
stevedm  
#4 Posted : 16 May 2019 11:49:18(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user
stevedm

Big fan and have introducd them is lots of places even where the footfall and assessment of risk from workforce and response time (that is the key rather than whether you have an A&E close by it doesn't guarantee an immediate response)...so % of A8 times met by your local Ambulance Service..in Wales buy and Defib! :)

You can join the Public Access Defib program which will reduce the cost and will allow you also to justify it as helping the local community.

Just a couple of thoughts  ::)

thanks 1 user thanked stevedm for this useful post.
hailss on 17/05/2019(UTC)
Hsquared14  
#5 Posted : 16 May 2019 13:03:38(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user
Hsquared14

We have one on site as we have an aging workforce and I also think it is MoJ policy to have one at every location.  We have never used ours (and I hope we never will)  but it is good to know that we have it and that all of our first aiders (and we have loads) are fully trained in its use.   Its one of those things like an umbrella, if you haven't got one you know you'll need it!!

thanks 1 user thanked Hsquared14 for this useful post.
hailss on 17/05/2019(UTC)
achrn  
#6 Posted : 17 May 2019 12:55:53(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user
achrn

We've just put one in our largest office (130 staff, but rather younger than average workforce, and no particularly vulnerable groups, good A&E access).  Any 'rational' assessment I came up with decided we didn't need one, but having bought it and announced it a number of staff have given positive feedback - they regard it as evidence that the company cares.

We are now probably going to purchase for most sites (down to some that are only around 20 staff) because of this 'warm fuzzy' effect, and because of sensitivities about head office being treated better than regional offices.

For those offices where we are tenants in a multi-occupancy block we've tried asking landlords to provide (and they've generally declined) so we're now pushing the other tenants to ask as well - if all the tenants ask for one to be provided, I expect the landlord will be more amenable.

thanks 1 user thanked achrn for this useful post.
A Kurdziel on 17/05/2019(UTC)
hailss  
#7 Posted : 17 May 2019 18:20:57(UTC)
Rank: New forum user
hailss

Originally Posted by: Roundtuit Go to Quoted Post

How many work on your high hazard sites, what is the demographic of this work force i.e. what does your risk assessment say?

Mine says that despite an ageing workforce we have an adequate number of first aiders in a well populated shop floor, are close to an A&E hospital with an ambulance trust whose response rate is "reasonable" so no defibs.

[The number of staff and the age of the staff vary.  As you say the risk is probable low but if it was to save just one person or to reduce the impact of any such attack then it would be worth it.  The ambulance trust may well have a good response and is something  i will look at but the issue may be getting through our security system in a timely manner (yes something else to think about)]
Users browsing this topic
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.