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Lisaanne  
#1 Posted : 23 February 2020 08:14:09(UTC)
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Lisaanne

Would CDM be required for installation of Broadband Ducting within residential and town area. Approx 40 workers around various sites for approx 9 months... thanks
RayRapp  
#2 Posted : 23 February 2020 09:19:52(UTC)
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RayRapp

Yes, I believe so. The work presumably entails excavating/digging and buried services. I also believe the work is notifiable to HSE due to the size of the project. Regulation 2. Interpratation below for your interest:

“construction work” means the carrying out of any building, civil engineering or engineering construction work and includes—

(a) the construction, alteration, conversion, fitting out, commissioning, renovation, repair, upkeep, redecoration or other maintenance (including cleaning which involves the use of water or an abrasive at high pressure, or the use of corrosive or toxic substances), de-commissioning, demolition or dismantling of a structure;
(b) the preparation for an intended structure, including site clearance, exploration, investigation (but not site survey) and excavation (but not pre-construction archaeological investigations), and the clearance or preparation of the site or structure for use or occupation at its conclusion;
(c) the assembly on site of prefabricated elements to form a structure or the disassembly on site of the prefabricated elements which, immediately before such disassembly, formed a structure;
(d) the removal of a structure, or of any product or waste resulting from demolition or dismantling of a structure, or from disassembly of prefabricated elements which immediately before such disassembly formed such a structure;
(e) the installation, commissioning, maintenance, repair or removal of mechanical, electrical, gas, compressed air, hydraulic, telecommunications, computer or similar services which are normally fixed within or to a structure,

but does not include the exploration for, or extraction of, mineral resources, or preparatory activities carried out at a place where such exploration or extraction is carried out;

 

Centurion  
#3 Posted : 23 February 2020 09:43:26(UTC)
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Centurion

Lisaanne

I would also say yes plus it is a good management tool to follow anyway for a project of this nature.

I would think that you could notify it as a complete civil engineering project and wouldn't have to do each site if that was a concern of yours.

Each site team could be issued with a copy of the F10.

The only variations on Notification would be if you are going to use more than 1 PC.

Ian Bell2  
#4 Posted : 23 February 2020 10:11:50(UTC)
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Ian Bell2

Yes to CDM

As Ray has quoted the regulation defining construction work, is so wide and generic it cataches just about any activity relating to/any type of construction work. There are a few minor exceptions,

This is both the strength and weakness of CDM as currently required. 

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RVThompson on 28/02/2020(UTC)
Lisaanne  
#5 Posted : 23 February 2020 10:37:37(UTC)
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Lisaanne

Thank you so much for all your replies, just as I thought... what about an F10?
Ian Bell2  
#6 Posted : 23 February 2020 13:17:30(UTC)
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Ian Bell2

Does your project meet the notification requirements under Reg 6 CDM?

Are you treating this work as 1 project or multiple projects? How far apart is each work point?

Not a straightforward answer.

peter gotch  
#7 Posted : 23 February 2020 16:27:11(UTC)
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peter gotch

Lisanne

It falls within the last bit of the definition that Ray quoted since the definition of "structure" includes the road(s) that the ducting and associated cables etc are installed into.

As to notification if you were to try and split this programme into hundreds of projects it might be that none of them met the threshold for notification. 

However, you could treat the whole programme as a single project, or if the work is spread between say 3 contractors, treat it as three projects each with a single Principal Contractor or as one project with 3 Principal Contractors.

Whichever way you play it, you need to make sure that any interface issues between different Contractors are adequately managed.

That also applies where your project(s) may interface with work done for other Clients as is very likely.

Much of the work is also likely to fall under the requirements of the New Roads and Streetworks Act and the "Red Book". So there will need to be liaison with the highways authority/authorities.

Lisaanne  
#8 Posted : 23 February 2020 19:52:03(UTC)
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Lisaanne

Multiple sites within one town... basically road by road... classified as one project... thank you
Ron Hunter  
#9 Posted : 27 February 2020 17:20:40(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

CDM applies because what you describe falls within the definition of construction work. The CDM Regulations apply to all construction work.

Not so sure what you mean by CDM being "required"?

A useful starting point: 

https://www.hse.gov.uk/construction/cdm/2015/index.htm

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RVThompson on 28/02/2020(UTC)
SNS  
#10 Posted : 27 February 2020 23:28:05(UTC)
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SNS

CDM applies to 'all employed' construction work.

Whether its notifiable or not depends on how many working days etc etc.

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RVThompson on 28/02/2020(UTC)
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