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JL  
#1 Posted : 08 October 2020 09:29:33(UTC)
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JL

If your workplace is COVID compliant, and the 2 metre rule can be met (with sufficient ventilation) can we ask staff not to use the app when they enter the workplace. Given the issues with apps accuracy in measuring distance it is possible that even at 4 metres apart people can still be told to isolate. Its possible to lose a large number of staff for 14 days when there has been no significant exposure. Anyone heard of this. seems resonable, as long as its enabled as soonas they leave.

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#2 Posted : 08 October 2020 09:59:22(UTC)
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A Kurdziel  
#4 Posted : 08 October 2020 10:03:58(UTC)
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The app does not tell you to isolate; it simply advises that you may have been exposed to the virus. It’s up to you to decide whether or not to isolate. You only MUST isolate if you have been told to do by an appropriate person eg a doctor, or someone from NHS track and trace, or you have had an official positive  test or you are sharing a house with some who has tested positive.

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#5 Posted : 08 October 2020 19:06:09(UTC)
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Cheeky Me  
#7 Posted : 09 October 2020 11:42:31(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: A Kurdziel Go to Quoted Post

The app does not tell you to isolate; it simply advises that you may have been exposed to the virus. It’s up to you to decide whether or not to isolate. You only MUST isolate if you have been told to do by an appropriate person eg a doctor, or someone from NHS track and trace, or you have had an official positive  test or you are sharing a house with some who has tested positive.

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Not strictly true A Kurdziel. You also MUST isolate if someone in your household simply develops symptoms. And you MUST remain isolated until a test is carried out and the results confirmed. No “appropriate person” involved in these instances, but you’ve still got to do it.

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A Kurdziel  
#8 Posted : 09 October 2020 12:16:03(UTC)
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When the app was first being discussed it was assumed that it would in someway be linked to an “appropriate person” who would in some way activate a team all kitted out like the  Child Detection Agency from Monsters Inc. These people would turn up on your doorstep as soon as you presented the symptoms and test and isolate you. Of course, the government have now realised that they can’t do that-it would commit a vast amount of resources which they just have not got.   

To be realistic are you telling me that everybody with a bit of a fever or a bit of a cough or some other vague symptom are self isolating without being told to do so by Track and Trace. If that was the case, then the pandemic is over, and we have nothing to worry about!

How many times do people get onto this forum to ask for advice on how to wriggle out of  reporting under RIDDOR?  

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Anagalactic  
#9 Posted : 09 October 2020 14:07:16(UTC)
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When you can't socially distance just wear your mask and sanitize your hand always and you should be fine.

chris42  
#10 Posted : 09 October 2020 15:38:12(UTC)
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It was an interesting point about people keeping their mobile phones in their work lockers during work time. We do ask our employees to not have their phones on them when they are working and to either keep them in lockers or cars etc (they don’t, but we ask), as it is unsafe for them to use a phone in some work areas. This I guess could easily record they were withing 2m of someone for the best part of the day if in locker or even car.

Interestingly, in the much talked about world beating app which didn’t materialise, there was lots of assurances about not misusing the tracking info. Oddly no such assurance for the latest NHS versions.

I also wonder what constitutes 15 minutes is that one block of 15 minutes, or can that be 15 lots of 1-minute encounters? (you know when someone is walking behind you in the supermarket and you catch up to one another or synchronise the other sides of an isle so you get to the middle the same time they do, but the other side.

Chris

John Murray  
#11 Posted : 10 October 2020 16:13:27(UTC)
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John Murray

Don't get the app. Don't get the warnings. Don't have to self-isolate. #sorted

Having already had the dreaded lurgy back at year start, and still having antobodies, y'all can download as much as yow wants.....fortunately, no matter how much the govt/stasi wants, my phone does not support installation of the digital-police-state !!!

John Murray  
#12 Posted : 10 October 2020 16:18:13(UTC)
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Oh; and it is the Apple-Google contact-tracing app, using bluetooth low-power. The original NHS (well, private-company) design collected the size of your underwear, this one doesn't!

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