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#1 Posted : 20 November 2023 12:00:56(UTC)
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Hi all

So I have had an accident reported where a doctor (who works for us under a self-employed contract - bills us there time and thus not on the official payroll) has banged there head on our vehicle sliding door whilst out at an incident.  This resulted in a cut to the head.  After some treatment, they have then completed their duties at the incident scene before going to hospital with a patient.

Whilst at the hospital they have had their wound glued.

What I am trying to decipher in my mind is if I classify the doctor as a worker or not, and if not then do I RIDDOR this as they have, albeit by the nature of what they were doing, attended a hospital and received treatment?  

#2 Posted : 20 November 2023 12:12:27(UTC)
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The doctor was working at the time (under whatever contract) and so is a worker and not a member of the public.

thanks 2 users thanked Kate for this useful post.
peter gotch on 20/11/2023(UTC), JamesClifford on 22/11/2023(UTC)
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#3 Posted : 20 November 2023 15:31:14(UTC)
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peter gotch

Hi James

Under ye old RIDDOR, the self-employed were expected to report any reportable injury that THEY sustained.

HSE research says that UNDERreporting by the self-employed was in excess of 90%.

So, in RIDDOR 2013, one of the key changes was to put the duty on the "responsible person" in the case of this doctor, the person with control over the site where the incident occurred, presumably you the employer.

Hence, next you have to ascertain which, if any, of the thresholds (other than that for a member of the public) apply.

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JamesClifford on 22/11/2023(UTC)
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