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lisar  
#1 Posted : 16 May 2025 15:26:32(UTC)
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lisar

Regarding training being required for users of diisocyanates, am I correct that those that only handled products for end use in closed containers regardless of if there is a spillage do not require training?

Also can a company just write their own training for users or does it need to be accredited? 

Edited by user 16 May 2025 15:32:00(UTC)  | Reason: poor spelling

peter gotch  
#2 Posted : 16 May 2025 16:16:30(UTC)
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peter gotch

Hi lisar

I would go back to first principles and ignore whatever the likes of REACH says at least to start with. 

If you are in GB then HSWA requires workers to be trained - with the usual qualification - so far as reasonably practicable.

So you would need to assess the risk of handling sealed containers including in the event of a spillage.

The "industry" seems to have come up with some European guidance and may be what might be approrpriate for your workers would be at the lowest level. Safe Use and Handling of Diisocyanates Trainings

Do you have that many end users? I thought that most organisations in the developed world had moved to find substitutes for MDI and TDI decades ago with only very limited processes for which there was no practical and inherently safer alternative.

Roundtuit  
#3 Posted : 16 May 2025 18:54:10(UTC)
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Roundtuit

I would look to the regulation https://eur-lex.europa.eu/eli/reg/2020/1149/oj/eng

Firstly what concentration is the isocyanate present at? <0.1% w/w and the regulation does not apply.

As to creating your "own" training it needs to satisfy the various comments in the regulation.

I am a great believer in not re-inventing the wheel - the link Peter has provided is the European industry response so if you ask your product supplier this is likely the direction you will be pointed.

As the implementation date drew near seven different suppliers all directed my business operations to this particular web site as we had a mixture of industrial spray booths and construction workers all using PU.

https://safeusediisocyanates.eu/self-e-learning/list-of-trainings/

Pick carefully as despite the headings a single module may be appropriate because the general training forms the basis of more specific modules.

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Roundtuit  
#4 Posted : 16 May 2025 18:54:10(UTC)
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Roundtuit

I would look to the regulation https://eur-lex.europa.eu/eli/reg/2020/1149/oj/eng

Firstly what concentration is the isocyanate present at? <0.1% w/w and the regulation does not apply.

As to creating your "own" training it needs to satisfy the various comments in the regulation.

I am a great believer in not re-inventing the wheel - the link Peter has provided is the European industry response so if you ask your product supplier this is likely the direction you will be pointed.

As the implementation date drew near seven different suppliers all directed my business operations to this particular web site as we had a mixture of industrial spray booths and construction workers all using PU.

https://safeusediisocyanates.eu/self-e-learning/list-of-trainings/

Pick carefully as despite the headings a single module may be appropriate because the general training forms the basis of more specific modules.

thanks 2 users thanked Roundtuit for this useful post.
peter gotch on 17/05/2025(UTC), peter gotch on 17/05/2025(UTC)
Roundtuit  
#5 Posted : 17 May 2025 09:18:23(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Originally Posted by: lisar Go to Quoted Post
those that only handled products for end use in closed containers

Just re-reading are you referring to warehouse & logistics staff simply moving boxes and tins?

Roundtuit  
#6 Posted : 17 May 2025 09:18:23(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Originally Posted by: lisar Go to Quoted Post
those that only handled products for end use in closed containers

Just re-reading are you referring to warehouse & logistics staff simply moving boxes and tins?

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