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#1 Posted : 18 December 2006 10:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By GARYS
I'm am looking at the possibility of recruiting a risk assessor either on a day rate or hourly rate to complete a full risk assessment programme at our largest production site in the north west(Food production - bakery ingriendents, cookies, muffins, dougnuts etc).

Could someone please advise on what a typical standard rate would be for this size of a project

Many thanks

Gary
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#2 Posted : 18 December 2006 11:09:00(UTC)
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Posted By holmezy


Gary,

depends on what level of experience, qualifications, knowledge you are looking for.

A newly qualified NEBOSH certificate holder may see this as an opportunity to gain valuable experience, whereas a Diploma holder may see it as a "fill in" job.

In my early days as a Certificate holder I did something similar on a large fruit farm over a period of 2 months and charged them £100 per day, which was cheap. Nowadays if I was still self employed, I'd be looking for £250 plus per day for a short term contract like this. Consultancies would be charging you a day rate of £400+ or a contract rate of £2-3k per month minimum.

If I were you I'd look to employ someone youngish, who has the Certificate, doing or looking to do the Diploma, on a short term contract and pay them £23k pro rata. You never know, they might develope into an asset to your company.

Or find an enthusiastic employee, spend a few hundred quid on some training and get them to do it.
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#3 Posted : 18 December 2006 11:24:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ian G Hutchings
Gary

Please email direct and I can advise.

Kind regards

Ian
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#4 Posted : 18 December 2006 17:16:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert J Martin
Hi Gary
I do exactly this type of thing for myself. Each risk assessment plus writing up time amounts to a half day £250.00 plus VAT or a full day £500.00 plus VAT.
If it was a 3-4 month contract 5 days a week the cost at those kind of rates are quite high. However you have no training costs or sick pay you can also build in contract clauses and negotiate a knock down price therefore reducing your daily rate. If you need anything also let me know.

Rob
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#5 Posted : 19 December 2006 08:24:00(UTC)
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Posted By GARYS
All

Many Thanks for all your responses, at this stage I'm only looking at costings for next year so I'm not in a position to take the project forward as yet, but if and when I do get around to implemneting the project I will keep all of you that have kindly helped in mind.

Thanks again and have a good Christmas and New Year

Gary.
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#6 Posted : 19 December 2006 10:24:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dave Wilson
Gary.

You say the "largest manufacturing production plant" - this rings alarm bells and I would STRONGLY suggest you really need to think about the skills and competencies and experience of the person/s who you would look to employ to undertake this!

Remember the Risk assessment process is only the first step in your Risk management process and in such as high risk site if you get it wrong you could be putting peoples lives at risk.

This is so crucial to what you are planning mate, a good mix of professional H&S training and practical experience within this field is your starting point and then you will get a feel for costs.

Do not rush into this on the basis of cost as you will come unstuck.
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#7 Posted : 19 December 2006 10:58:00(UTC)
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Posted By James Rafferty
Gary,

I would be more willing to assist you with this project, I have carried out many similar projects in food manufacturing & distribution centres across the UK.

I have just recently left my company (you can find my specific details below in the forum thread (Experienced Health & Safety Professional seeks freelance work) and I'm now looking for short term contract work. please drop me a line, if i can be of any assistance

Best Regards

James
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#8 Posted : 19 December 2006 18:56:00(UTC)
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Posted By Andy Brazier
Given that risk assessment is a skill requiring expertise I would view this as a consultancy project. I always think paying consultants an hourly or daily rate should be a last resort. The problem being the consultant has little incentive to do an efficient job. Also, the client tends to not be so specific about their requirements, and this will often lead to dissatisfaction along the way.

Much better to agree a price for the job and pay for deliverable. There need to be clauses so that the consultant gets paid more if the job specification or scope changes, but not if they need to redo work because of poor quality.

The consultant's cash flow is important, so having deliverables approximately monthly is a good idea. Also, this means the client has a good idea of how the work is progressing.

I am sure others will disagree with me on this.
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#9 Posted : 31 December 2006 15:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bob Pedley
Hi Gary,

I run a consultancy based in the North West and have staff familiar with your industry. My charge out rates are £28.50 per hour for this type of work.

Bob
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